Birmingham: Qatar Airways News & Flight Discussion

[Ray Finkle]

It's stopping for June, back in July, then stopping again in August and September before returning again in October.

It's to do with aircraft redeployment on to new routes that they were already committed to starting. The A350 delays have meant that quite a few routes have seen reductions.

 

[Brum X]

To me the extra saturday flights was a brucie bonus, its still great that we have daily flights to Doha. Hopefully when Qatar get there new aircarft sorted and this route continues to be a success then we will see extra flights added into BHX.

 

[Ray Finkle]

There may be an equipment change before then, we shall see

 

[Kevin Farnell]

It's stopping for June, back in July, then stopping again in August and September before returning again in October.

It's to do with aircraft redeployment on to new routes that they were already committed to starting. The A350 delays have meant that quite a few routes have seen reductions.

Thanks for that, Ray.
I was aware of the Aug/Sep reductions, but not June.

There may be an equipment change before then, we shall see

I did read a few weeks back on another forum, talk of an A380. I treated this with the 'pinch of salt' I thought it deserved and have seen nothing else posted on the subject.
I can only surmise, therefore if it were to happen an upgrade would be an A350, or at a stretch a B777-200/300.

Looking at Qatar Airways website, the following info is available regarding their fleet (Business/Economy) -

787-8 22 232

A350-900 36 247

777-200 42 217

777-300 42 316
777-300 24 388

Any change could therefore depend on how well business class is doing from BHX.

Regards

Kevin

 

[Ray Finkle]

I've heard an A380 mentioned also but I can't see it myself. If nothing else their A380's have 8 first class cabins and if Emirates can't make it work then I don't see Qatar any different.

It looks as if we are due to go to an A350, which was originally the equipment to be used. When this will happen I don't know as the delays look to be causing them a real headache.

 

[User001]

Regardless of the excuse, when Qatar are cutting back BHX (amongst others) flights and merging BHX flights with other destinations, I can't help but feel some are being overly optimistic with talk of the A380.

At best Qatar will send the B77W. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say apart from perhaps a promo flight, Qatar won't be sending the A380 to any UK airport outside London.

 

[nwoody2001]

...a little harsh their User, they are merging a single one-way flight to DOH via MAD... not exactly the end of the world!

...and when the other cuts are happening at other popular routes (including MAN) again, im not going to be reading too much into it!

Don't get me wrong, I too think its a little much to expect QR to introduce the A380 on the route, but then, with EK, QR and TK all present at BHX, there is obvious airline missing. Will be interesting to see what the existing airlines have in mind with regard to a response....

 

[User001]

Nwoody,

It's not harsh, it's reality.

Yes, it may only be one flight that's been merged, but in terms of the U.K. Operation, why was BHX picked on the relatively small B788? Why not LHR or MAN on the larger B77W?

Let's not forget, the extra Saturday flight has seen cuts in June ahead and extra to the planned ones in July-October.

So, you may call it harsh, but in reference to the A380, it's bang on and what's weirder, you call me harsh but go on to agree with me re:A380 which is the crux of what I was saying.

Regardless of any EK/TK or theoretical EY expansion, I'll put good money on QR NOT sending the A380 on regular flights for a long time yet.

 

[jfy1999]

I agree with the points Kevin raised about business class. The 787 product is very good but is it the biggest BHX can fill right now? If BHX is better at filling economy than business, then perhaps a 77W wouldn't be asking too much?

As nice as it would be to have a larger aircraft on the route, I'm hoping they plan to go twice daily in the near future, which would probably be overkill if they already had something larger on one of the flights. So I would actually prefer two daily 787 flights over one daily anything else - even a 77W or A380.

More importantly, I think the A350 is just plain ugly

 

[Ray Finkle]

I doubt that anyone realistically thinks that Qatar are about to send A380's to BHX, it was mentioned elsewhere but is just fantasy.

What is likely, and this is from several sources, is that it will eventually be switched to an A350. When is anybody's guess. The extra seating would only be about 30 each way but it also offers a greater cargo capacity over the 787.

 

[Brummiegem]

I don't think anyone here truly believes that BHX will see an A380,even in the long term.
As jfy says,most would rather see a twice daily schedule either with B788,or I personally would like to see eqv on the schedule.That would show the service is successful and larger aircraft could be used if needed.
Qatar are quite flexible when it comes to aircraft usage.Both MAN and LHR have different aircraft types used on their flights as and when needed,so if we at BHX get a similar type of operation then it will show that our flights are doing well.
I do however believe that we have a way to go yet as although most flights quite busy,some are not.We shouldn't worry too much though,as this is how the first couple of years of EK operation went,and we all know what happened there.

 

[nwoody2001]

Nwoody,

It's not harsh, it's reality.

Yes, it may only be one flight that's been merged, but in terms of the U.K. Operation, why was BHX picked on the relatively small B788? Why not LHR or MAN on the larger B77W?

Let's not forget, the extra Saturday flight has seen cuts in June ahead and extra to the planned ones in July-October.

So, you may call it harsh, but in reference to the A380, it's bang on and what's weirder, you call me harsh but go on to agree with me re:A380 which is the crux of what I was saying.

Regardless of any EK/TK or theoretical EY expansion, I'll put good money on QR NOT sending the A380 on regular flights for a long time yet.

Dear lord User001... I was querying your "Flights merges..." reference.... its a SINGLE OUTWARD-BOUND flight, not Flights! .... that is Fact User001 and as such is its harsh to refer to them as flights!! that was all, you will see that in general I was agreeing with your post...

...lord you make it hard for someone to agree with you!!! in fact ive never known it harder to agree with someone when that's the reaction!

 

[User001]

Nwoody,

are you seriously loosing your cool at the fact I put a single 's' at the end of a word? It was a simple grammatical error and thus just something lost in translation.

People take things far too personally sometimes!?!?

 

[nwoody2001]

I hadn't lost my cool, it was a minor point I was bringing to your attraction, it was your response that appeared inflammatory, even though I was generally agreeing with the sentiment of you post.

As you like to keep it to facts, and are as equally keen to correct such inaccuracies in the MAN thread, I was simply bringing such inaccuracies to your attention.

 

[Brum X]

I also don't think it's a huge surprise that BHX is the airport that has seen an adjustment to its schedule as opposed to MAN/LHR as the route is probably the lightest out of all of them as its a new route. Also don't forget we have had a lot of increases over a short space of time from the ME2 and its the quiet season. Also BHX is daily, EDI is still x4/5 weekly.

 

[Jon Dempsey]

http://m.independent.ie/business/irish/qatar-ups-stakes-in-aer-lingus-owner-to-20pc-34930374.html

 

[Daza]

nwoody2001 I sent you a PM.

 

[ethanegcc]

I think a 77L or 77W once daily or 5/6 weekly would do well at BHX as they can fill economy easier than business class or what about a 332/333 with twice daily services on selected days?

 

[jfy1999]

Although I would like to see a 77W I always thought 2 daily 788 would be ideal and then they could put EQV on the route if demand grows further.

 

[nwoody2001]

but the reality is, they is a massive delay in the delivery of 788/789 and with similar delays occurring with regard to the A350s, Qatar are really struggling, not with money or vision, but just purely with getting enough aircraft to service their needs!!!