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[lbaspotter]

I think that some people are getting carried away with this news.
FlyBe (Loganair) are taking over an established link (there have been flights to Glasgow for over 40 years) so it is a low risk venture. Creating a mini hub is a completly different scenario especially in the present economic climate.

Can't argue with that Seasider. As i can at least remember the following airlines operating the Leeds - Glasgow route over them past 40 years or so.

Dan Air = HS748's
Capital Airlines = Shorts 360's
Loganair = Shorts 360's Took over when Capital went bust
Bussiness Air = Saab 340's
British Midland Commuter = Saab 340's, BAe ATP's & ERJ145's when delivered new
bmi regional = ERJ135, ERJ145 also the Fokker 70/100's were used for a while.
Loganair = Now going back to Saab 340's

 

[Jordan-34092]

Lets hope they take over edinburgh too.

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[lbaspotter]

Lets hope they take over edinburgh too.

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From what I have been told Loganair/flybe are not interested in the severing the Leeds - Edinburgh route.
It's looking as though the Edinburgh route will be left for someone else to pick up. Or we may be about to lose another direct service to a capital city.

 

[Aviador]

Lets hope they take over edinburgh too.

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From what I have been told Loganair/flybe are not interested in the severing the Leeds - Edinburgh route.
It's looking as though the Edinburgh route will be left for someone else to pick up. Or we may be about to lose another direct service to a capital city.

Capital in a very loose term of course for the principality as London is and hopefully will remain the Capital city.

 

[SNOWMAN]

hi all ( re logan air's glasgow route)

from what i have been told logan air's first task will be to try and increase pax numbers on the route, and make it profitable,and then to look at a midd afternoon rotation to give a better service for the business
users.they are not planning any more routes from lba,no hubs minny or other wise, and no edin route.

sm1

 

[rmac]

My comment "mini hub" was just that 'mini' . Also "eventually". Given that LBA wants a FRA service and so does GLA by co-operating they "eventually" might get something.

 

[White Heather]

I think that some people are getting carried away with this news.
FlyBe (Loganair) are taking over an established link (there have been flights to Glasgow for over 40 years) so it is a low risk venture. Creating a mini hub is a completly different scenario especially in the present economic climate.

Can't argue with that Seasider. As i can at least remember the following airlines operating the Leeds - Glasgow route over them past 40 years or so.

Dan Air = HS748's
Capital Airlines = Shorts 360's
Loganair = Shorts 360's Took over when Capital went bust
Bussiness Air = Saab 340's
British Midland Commuter = Saab 340's, BAe ATP's & ERJ145's when delivered new
bmi regional = ERJ135, ERJ145 also the Fokker 70/100's were used for a while.
Loganair = Now going back to Saab 340's

You can add to that the following:

Channel Airways 'Scottish Flyer' using Viscount 800's in the 60's
British Midland Viscount 800's for a while in the 60's
Metropolitan Airlines using Shorts 330's, taking over from Dan Air when they withdrew from the route.

It is a route that has rarely been non operational since the airport opened and has usually been picked up very quickly when an airline has withdrawn from it.

 

[Seasider]

BMA used BAC 1-11's in the 60's as well as Viscounts.
I am not 100% sure but didn't the Channel Airways "Scottish Flyer" serve Edinburgh not Glasgow.

 

[White Heather]

You are correct Seasider, it was EDI and not GLA that Channel Airways served. At least I got the country right anyway. It was actually a really strange service that didn't last long, and no surprise really as it operated twice daily in each direction and the route was Southend, Luton, East Midlands, Leeds, Teesside, Newcastle, Edinburgh, Aberdeen. It was known as a bus stop service and no wonder - it probably never got much higher than the average bus either. I remember the livery though - white, gold and black.

Anyway, back to the topic................

 

[Bigman]

Looks like Knock is not on sale for Winter. Belfast, Exeter and Southampton are. Guess that it hasn't been successful then.

 

[lbaspotter]

Looks like Knock is not on sale for Winter. Belfast, Exeter and Southampton are. Guess that it hasn't been successful then.

The new Glasgow route is not also on sale as well. I do know that they tend to have a second release of flights late on in the summer. So it could be one to watch.

By way bigman have you noticed the Southampton flight time changes. The MON-FRI evening inbound BE175/176 lands LBA at 20:30 and departs back to SOU at 20:55.

Belfast-Leeds
BE729 07:20 – 08:20 = MON,TUE,WED,THU,FRI
BE731 11:00 – 12:05 = SAT
BE731 11:30 – 12:35 = SUN
BE731 15:05 – 16:10 = MON,TUE,WED,THU,FRI
BE733 18:40 – 19:45 = MON,TUE,WED,THU,FRI & SUN
Leeds-Belfast
BE730 08:45 – 09:50 = MON,TUE,WED,THU,FRI
BE732 12:30 – 13:35 = SAT
BE732 13:00 – 14:35 = SUN
BE732 16:35 – 17:40 = MON,TUE,WED,THU,FRI
BE734 20:10 – 21:05 = MON,TUE,WED,THU,FRI & SUN

Exeter-Leeds
BE641 11:25 – 12:35 = MON,TUE,WED,THU,FRI
BE641 18:20 – 19:30 = SUN
Leeds-Exeter
BE642 13:00 – 14:10 = MON,TUE,WED,THU,FRI
BE642 19:55 – 21:05 = SUN

Southampton-Leeds
BE171 07:05 – 08:10 = WED
BE171 07:15 – 08:25 = MON,TUE,THU,FRI
BE171 10:40 – 11:50 = SAT
BE173 12:35 – 13:40 = SUN
BE173 15:05 – 16:15 = MON,TUE,WED,THU,FRI
BE175 18:55 – 20:05 = SUN
BE175 19:20 – 20:30 = MON,TUE,WED,THU,FRI
Leeds-Southampton
BE172 08:35 – 09:45 = WED
BE172 08:50 – 10:05 = MON,TUE,THU,FRI
BE172 12:15 – 13:30 = SAT
BE174 14:05 – 15:10 = SUN
BE174 16:40 – 17:50 = MON,TUE,WED,THU,FRI
BE176 20:30 – 21:40 = SUN
BE176 20:55 – 22:05 = MON,TUE,WED,THU,FRI

 

[michael]

Flybe seem to be pushing the Knock Ireland route from LBA if the email in my inbox is anything to go by. I wonder if it's just routine advertising or whether the route isn't selling well?

 

[Bigman]

I don't know if anyone else has noticed but the Exeter appears to have been canned. Not on sale after the end of September. Another domestic route bites the dust!!

 

[whoshotjimmi]

If the numbers who used todays service are anything to go by (15 - 20 by my reckoning) I wouldn't be surprised.

 

[michael]

I'm not surprised no-one's using the route given their prices, £185 round trip for southbound on a wednesday, back up north on a friday 3rd week in sept. It's as if they're pricing passengers out on purpose. This compares to a 3 day trip that i have booked recently, late january with Flybe LBA to Belfast, less than £40 return.

 

[lbaspotter]

Have heard that flybe's Leeds/Bradford - Exeter route will now become a summer seasonal route for the time been due to ADP and the ever increasing costs off Fuel and expected low passenger figure's over the winter period..
I also understand that Flybe recently in August issued a profits warning "as planes take-off less than two-thirds full" to the London stock exchange which wont have help matters I guess

Source:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/...lanes-take-off-less-than-two-thirds-full.html

 

[TheLocalYokel]

Flybe has issued several profit warnings since it floated on the stock exchange at the end of 2010 and has seen its initial share price of 295 pence plunge by around 80% since then.

It's still desperately trying to match seats with demand and this has resulted in a number of domestic routes being culled in recent months, as well as more high profile ones beyond these shores to such places as Frankfurt from Southampton, Manchester and Birmingham.

No surprise about LBA-EXT becoming a summer-only route. BRS-IOM is going this winter and I've heard no confirmation that it will return next summer.

 

[White Heather]

It wouldn't have surprised me if Knock had also become Summer only for all the same reasons, as I wouldn't have thought it would do too well in the depths of winter, except perhaps over the Christmas period when a lot of Irish families are heading between Yorkshire and Ireland to be with families etc.

 

[SNOWMAN]

high all
tomorrow (thurs) should be the day when flybe anounce their latest round of route cuts,i expect exeter to be pulled,knock is also in the ballance,at this point in time i dont no if we will keep it as summer only or it will be pulled.
sm1

 

[SNOWMAN]

1 q400 been pulled from the ext base.

smi