British Airways

[SNOWMAN]

hi all
have just noticed on dried fruit that B.A. have applied to man for extra slots for L.H.R.
sm1

 

[KARFA]

hi all
have just noticed on dried fruit that B.A. have applied to man for extra slots for L.H.R.
sm1

not sure that makes sense? if anything BA have reduced flights to MAN over the years rather than increased. Rotations have been removed as well for the upcoming winter timetable, there are large gaps now in the schedule where there are more than 4hrs between flights. BA seem to be quite happy to restrict demand on domestic routes.

 

[Aviador]

hi all
have just noticed on dried fruit that B.A. have applied to man for extra slots for L.H.R.
sm1

Nothing would suprise.

 

[Coathanger16]

It may be they have applied for different slots at MAN so they can adjust the times of their shuttle flights to better connect with other flights from LHR...

 

[GolfFox]

Always tried to support the BA service via T5 at LHR even to the point of a long wait - when the service was three rotations the timings were not that good. Whilst I am pleased to hear loads are up on the reduced service, I haven't used it as the timings now are virtually useless for me. I have taken direct flights from MAN recently with other airlines but frankly the MAN experience has been poor. Flights OK but the airport seems to be struggling with infrastructure - T1 recently was like a rugby scrum - struggled to get to gate at end of the pier. 40 minute delay due to delay in loading luggage then further as there were 'six aircraft to depart in front'.Coming back 20 minutes sat on aircraft as no-one to operate air bridge! Such a shame BA are tossing away long haul passengers from LBA.

 

[Silvercity]

Always tried to support the BA service via T5 at LHR even to the point of a long wait - when the service was three rotations the timings were not that good. Whilst I am pleased to hear loads are up on the reduced service, I haven't used it as the timings now are virtually useless for me. I have taken direct flights from MAN recently with other airlines but frankly the MAN experience has been poor. Flights OK but the airport seems to be struggling with infrastructure - T1 recently was like a rugby scrum - struggled to get to gate at end of the pier. 40 minute delay due to delay in loading luggage then further as there were 'six aircraft to depart in front'.Coming back 20 minutes sat on aircraft as no-one to operate air bridge! Such a shame BA are tossing away long haul passengers from LBA.

I agree, I use Manchester for long haul only really , flights are fine, it's the airport that isn't pleasant. Otherwise I use Liverpool which is even more handy for me.

 

[KARFA]

Always tried to support the BA service via T5 at LHR even to the point of a long wait - when the service was three rotations the timings were not that good. Whilst I am pleased to hear loads are up on the reduced service, I haven't used it as the timings now are virtually useless for me. I have taken direct flights from MAN recently with other airlines but frankly the MAN experience has been poor. Flights OK but the airport seems to be struggling with infrastructure - T1 recently was like a rugby scrum - struggled to get to gate at end of the pier. 40 minute delay due to delay in loading luggage then further as there were 'six aircraft to depart in front'.Coming back 20 minutes sat on aircraft as no-one to operate air bridge! Such a shame BA are tossing away long haul passengers from LBA.

A lot of my flights are now rebooked to MAN, although I am staying on LBA BA flights where I can. I am slowly growing to hate MAN more and more now for many of the reasons you noted. Also the train journey back to Leeds seems to be getting more miserable over time.

 

[Jerry]

A lot of my flights are now rebooked to MAN, although I am staying on LBA BA flights where I can. I am slowly growing to hate MAN more and more now for many of the reasons you noted. Also the train journey back to Leeds seems to be getting more miserable over time.

Is Newcastle an option for you?

 

[KARFA]

Is Newcastle an option for you?

i may look at that. i suspect it may not be but tbh i have never thought of it.

 

[markietg]

Just booked the shuttle down to LHR on the 7th Dec. It’s showing as an A320 for the flight
On the 5th Dec it’s showing as an A321

 

[markietg]

Just had a look for all Nov and Dec and it looks like we are going to start getting a total mix of A319/320/321 from the Winter timetable.

 

[KARFA]

Just had a look for all Nov and Dec and it looks like we are going to start getting a total mix of A319/320/321 from the Winter timetable.

Some of my forward bookings are showing as A321s. This may or may not last. They were put in the timetable a few weeks ago but they may be swapped back to A319s at some point. I hope we do get a few larger aircraft prompted by demand though

Longer term the A319s are starting to be retired from 2019, I think 8 are due to go next year, and some are being transferred to the LGW fleet so i guess we may possibly start to see A320/A321s regularly at LBA over the next few years.

 

[lbaspotter]

British Airways London Heathrow – Leeds/Bradford route = Updated Winter 2018/19 schedule

Mondays
BA1346 = LHR 09:25 – LBA 10:25 / BA1347 = LBA 11:20 – LHR 12:30
BA1344 = LHR 16:15 – LBA 17:15 / BA1345 = LBA 17:55 – LHR 19:00
Tuesdays
BA1346 = LHR 09:25 – LBA 10:25 / BA1347 = LBA 11:15 – LHR 12:25
Wednesdays
BA1346 = LHR 09:25 – LBA 10:25 / BA1347 = LBA 11:15 – LHR 12:25
Thursdays
BA1346 = LHR 09:35 – LBA 10:35 / BA1347 = LBA 11:15 – LHR 12:25
BA1344 = LHR 16:15 – LBA 17:15 / BA1345 = LBA 17:55 – LHR 19:00
Fridays
BA1346 = LHR 09:25 – LBA 10:25 / BA1347 = LBA 11:20 – LHR 12:30
BA1344 = LHR 16:10 – LBA 17:10 / BA1345 = LBA 18:05 – LHR 19:10
Saturdays
BA1346 = LHR 09:25 – LBA 10:25 / BA1347 = LBA 11:05 – LHR 12:15
Sundays
BA1346 = LHR 09:25 – LBA 10:25 / BA1347 = LBA 11:05 – LHR 12:15

October 2018
Sun 28th = BA1346/1347, A319
Mon 29th = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Tue 30th = BA1346/1347, A319
Wed 31st = BA1346/1347, A320

November 2018
Thu 1st = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Fri 2nd = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Sat 3rd = BA1346/1347, A320
Sun 4th = BA1346/1347, A319
Mon 5th = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Tue 6th = BA1346/1347, A319
Wed 7st = BA1346/1347, A320
Thu 8st = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Fri 9th = BA1346/1347, A320 & BA1344/1345, A321
Sat 10th = BA1346/1347, A320
Sun 11th = BA1346/1347, A319
Mon 12th = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Tue 13th = BA1346/1347, A319
Wed 14st = BA1346/1347, A321
Thu 15st = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Fri 16th = BA1346/1347, A320 & BA1344/1345, A321
Sat 17th = BA1346/1347, A319
Sun 18th = BA1346/1347, A320
Mon 19th = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Tue 20th = BA1346/1347, A319
Wed 21st = BA1346/1347, A321
Thu 22nd = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Fri 23rd = BA1346/1347, A320 & BA1344/1345, A321
Sat 24th = BA1346/1347, A319
Sun 25th = BA1346/1347, A319
Mon 26th = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Tue 27th = BA1346/1347, A319
Wed 28st = BA1346/1347, A321
Thu 29nd = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Fri 30th = BA1346/1347, A320 & BA1344/1345, A319

December 2018
Sat 1st = BA1346/1347, A319
Sun 2nd = BA1346/1347, A319
Mon 3rd = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Tue 4th = BA1346/1347, A319
Wed 5st = BA1346/1347, A321
Thu 6nd = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Fri 7th = BA1346/1347, A320 & BA1344/1345, A321
Sat 8st = BA1346/1347, A319
Sun 9th = BA1346/1347, A319
Mon 10th = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Tue 11th = BA1346/1347, A319
Wed 12st = BA1346/1347, A319
Thu 13th = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Fri 14th = BA1346/1347, A320 & BA1344/1345, A321
Sat 15st = BA1346/1347, A319
Sun 16th = BA1346/1347, A319
Mon 17th = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Tue 18th = BA1346/1347, A319
Wed 19st = BA1346/1347, A321
Thu 20th = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Fri 21st = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Sat 22nd = BA1346/1347, A320
Sun 23rd = BA1346/1347, A320
Mon 24th = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Tue 25th = No service (Xmas Day)
Wed 26th = BA1346/1347, A320
Thu 27th = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Fri 28th = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Sat 29th = BA1346/1347, A320
Sun 30th = BA1346/1347, A320
Mon 31st = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319

January 2019
Tue 1th = BA1346/1347, A319
Wed 2nd = BA1346/1347, A320
Thu 3rd = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Fri 4th = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Sat 5th = BA1346/1347, A320
Sun 6th = BA1346/1347, A319
Mon 7th = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Tue 8th = BA1346/1347, A319
Wed 9th = BA1346/1347, A321
Thu 10th = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Fri 11th = BA1346/1347, A320 & BA1344/1345, A321
Sat 12th = BA1346/1347, A319
Sun 13th = BA1346/1347, A319
Mon 14th = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Tue 15th = BA1346/1347, A319
Wed 16th = BA1346/1347, A321
Thu 17th = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Fri 18th = BA1346/1347, A320 & BA1344/1345, A321
Sat 19th = BA1346/1347, A319
Sun 20th = BA1346/1347, A319
Mon 21st = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Tue 22nd = BA1346/1347, A319
Wed 23rd = BA1346/1347, A320
Thu 24th = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Fri 25th = BA1346/1347, A320 & BA1344/1345, A321
Sat 26th = BA1346/1347, A319
Sun 27th = BA1346/1347, A319
Mon 28th = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Tue 29th = BA1346/1347, A319
Wed 30th = BA1346/1347, A320
Thu 31st = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319

February 2019
Fri 1st = BA1346/1347, A320 & BA1344/1345, A321
Sat 2nd = BA1346/1347, A320
Sun 3rd = BA1346/1347, A319
Mon 4th = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Tue 5th = BA1346/1347, A319
Wed 6th = BA1346/1347, A320
Thu 7th = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Fri 8th = BA1346/1347, A320 & BA1344/1345, A321
Sat 9th = BA1346/1347, A319
Sun 10th = BA1346/1347, A319
Mon 11th = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Tue 12th = BA1346/1347, A319
Wed 13th = BA1346/1347, A321
Thu 14th = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Fri 15th = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A321
Sat 16th = BA1346/1347, A320
Sun 17th = BA1346/1347, A320
Mon 18th = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Tue 19th = BA1346/1347, A319
Wed 20th = BA1346/1347, A320
Thu 21st = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Fri 22nd = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Sat 23rd = BA1346/1347, A320
Sun 24th = BA1346/1347, A319
Mon 25th = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Tue 26th = BA1346/1347, A319
Wed 27th = BA1346/1347, A321
Thu 28th = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319

March 2019
Fri 1st = BA1346/1347, A320 & BA1344/1345, A319
Sat 2nd = BA1346/1347, A320
Sun 3rd = BA1346/1347, A319
Mon 4th = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Tue 5th = BA1346/1347, A319
Wed 6th = BA1346/1347, A320
Thu 7th = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Fri 8th = BA1346/1347, A320 & BA1344/1345, A319
Sat 9th = BA1346/1347, A320
Sun 10th = BA1346/1347, A319
Mon 11th = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Tue 12th = BA1346/1347, A319
Wed 13th = BA1346/1347, A320
Thu 14th = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Fri 15th = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Sat 16th = BA1346/1347, A320
Sun 17th = BA1346/1347, A319
Mon 18th = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Tue 19th = BA1346/1347, A319
Wed 20th = BA1346/1347, A320
Thu 21st = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Fri 22nd = BA1346/1347, A320 & BA1344/1345, A319
Sat 23rd = BA1346/1347, A320
Sun 24th = BA1346/1347, A320
Mon 25th = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Tue 26th = BA1346/1347, A319
Wed 27th = BA1346/1347, A320
Thu 28st = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Fri 29th = BA1346/1347, A319 & BA1344/1345, A319
Sat 30th = BA1346/1347, A320

 

[AirBingley]

It's amazing how many more connections the retiming of that evening flight hits - with a 1 hour T5 change it now gets some European destinations rather than just long haul - lets hope they fill the bigger planes!

 

[Finger66]

Regardless of the fact the A319s are starting to be retired and transferred next year, more capacity on some flights will encourage pax increase as we know some flights operate full and of course no one then knows exactly how many extra seats could have been sold on those full flights. Whilst the A320 and A321 op flights may, and I say may, mean we see a reduction in load factor, I bet it helps increase the LF on the remaining A319 flights. I see this as a positive move from BA which was long overdue following the previous capacity and frequency cuts. So let's hope it helps them realise the routes potential!

 

[rutamkrd]

Air Bingley - No one should be encouraged to take multiple stop inter European flights period !

There are far better point to point offerings to the vast majority of destinations from the regions and with far better seat pitch in the main !

The BA A32x - Fleets are largely interchangeable at very short notice cepting the new A320neo’s which almost exclusively work out of T3 at the moment.

 

[Jerry]

Air Bingley - No one should be encouraged to take multiple stop inter European flights period !

Why not? They are often more convenient timing wise and many of the airlines that operate hub systems are better than the ones operating point 2 point.
As well many airlines that operate hub systems operate from the smaller airports which the point to point airlines don't.

 

[KARFA]

Air Bingley - No one should be encouraged to take multiple stop inter European flights period !

There are far better point to point offerings to the vast majority of destinations from the regions and with far better seat pitch in the main !

The BA A32x - Fleets are largely interchangeable at very short notice cepting the new A320neo’s which almost exclusively work out of T3 at the moment.

Once you go beyond a few European cities tbh there are not so many point to point options from LBA. I (probably like many this side of the Pennines) prefer not to go over to MAN if I can help it and a connecting itinerary trumps a direct flight from MAN for me. KL is another option from LBA of course.

I think Air Bingley is just pointing out the facts. I am sure most can make up their own minds about what suits them.

Yes the A320neos have only operated out of T3 so far. Whilst the A320 series is interchangeable, a few routes tend to see almost exclusively one type such as LBA which has (apart from a handful of occasions) been an A319 route.

 

[rutamkrd]

Jerry with exception of KLM ( and that’s only because off their Shell contract along the east coast) the major legacies UK spoke offerings are dire beyond the 4 largest regionals.

They certainly do NOT connect into the smaller centres that just not true.

And as for KLM from those smaller centres in particular their fares can be mind numbing !

They do offer some reasonable fares via the consolidators from time to time but don’t expect flexibility in your itinerary either.

Again the regionals are the home of the flexible fares and point to point operators these days.
These carriers also provide far more local employment opportunities than those legacies have ever done.

Other than mileage runs ( another myth as they cost you up front on those business fares) to earn status and rewards (bribes) the legacies offer little on short haul other than INCONVENIENCE and longer travel times via intermediate points imho.

But do note my point was should not be encouraged!

Clearly KARFA and Bingley might prefer jobs for Hounslow Spelthorne , Hillingdon and Slough then ( code)

Fact is BA in particular haven’t yet proven real commitment to Leeds have they !

 

[lbaspotter]

I guess what you trying to say "rutamkrd" is that you would rather have us all travel over to MAN?
But fact is for me and I suspect others on here MAN is not an option, LBA is easier to use even if it means going via LHR, AMS or DUB.