KLM

[lbaspotter]

KLM Winter 2018/19 schedule shows all Amsterdam - Leeds flights been operated by Embraer 190.

1234567 = KL1540 LBA 06:10 – AMS 08:30
1234567 = KL1545 AMS 09:30 – LBA 09:40 / KL1546 LBA 10:10 – AMS 12:25
12345-7 = KL1549 AMS 16:35 – LBA 16:45 / KL1550 LBA 17:15 – AMS 19:30
1234567 = KL1551 AMS 21:45 – LBA 21:55

Note that all 3x rotations will operate Xmas Eve, Xmas Day, New Years Eve and New Years Day.

 

[tleeds]

Expect an announcement very soon regarding an increase in ‘based’ seats from Leeds for next Summer or sooner...

From Embraer to Boeing if you can catch on...

 

[Jerry]

Expect an announcement very soon regarding an increase in ‘based’ seats from Leeds for next Summer or sooner...

From Embraer to Boeing if you can catch on...

Just Leeds or are other airports getting 737s?

 

[LBAYORKIE]

Hopefully not at expense of frequency

 

[lbaspotter]

My guess is that they are going to put the Boeing 737-700 on the night stopper whilst the mid moring and afternoon rotations will remain Embraer 190 operated.

 

[LBAYORKIE]

So the 737 would be a 'mainline' aircraft?

 

[Jerry]

So the 737 would be a 'mainline' aircraft?

Yes

 

[Finger66]

Our red, white and blue friends should be sitting up and taking notice of this. However in their true fashion I suspect they couldn't give a t@@s. Good luck to KLM, they seem committed to the regions

 

[White Heather]

LBA management did say at the last Consultative Committee meeting that due to excellent loads on KLM they were in discussion with regard to increased capacity, either through the use of larger aircraft types or re-instating the 4th daily rotation we lost, then re-gained, and then lost again. It will be interesting to see if this happens and if so, which option.

 

[leedslad]

If a larger plane, would it still entail being bussed to the terminal at Amsterdam? Presumably also still gate D6?

 

[Jerry]

If a larger plane, would it still entail being bussed to the terminal at Amsterdam? Presumably also still gate D6?

If it's a 737 from what I've seen that'll be a contact stand with an airbridge. When I've used AMS I've only ever seen KLM Cityhopper jets use the remote stand area.

 

[Finger66]

LBA management did say at the last Consultative Committee meeting that due to excellent loads on KLM they were in discussion with regard to increased capacity, either through the use of larger aircraft types or re-instating the 4th daily rotation we lost, then re-gained, and then lost again. It will be interesting to see if this happens and if so, which option.

Due to the current slot constraints at Schipol I would expect this to be in the form of a larger aircraft, almost certainly a B737-700. Either way, it will be great news if it happens. Are the 737s any better or worse equipped for dealing with poor weather does anyone know?

 

[Finger66]

My guess is that they are going to put the Boeing 737-700 on the night stopper whilst the mid moring and afternoon rotations will remain Embraer 190 operated.

And meant to say all three rotations usually do really well so it may be more than just the night stopper but whatever the increase, assuming we are getting one which it looks like we may be, is a very positive move from KLM. Any other airlines wish to take note?

 

[airforced]

If this happens and a 737 is introduced onto the route it will be a good thing for KLM and passengers wanting to fly from LBA to places further afield. KLM will be placing bets on BA reducing their offering, for what it is worth today, even further and good luck to them.

The only caveat I would add is that they will need to be very careful with their pricing for the onward flights from Schipol as, when I have looked at what they are offering recently, they have been very expensive, which if that remains the case, would kill stone dead any thoughts they had on making a killing on the route with onward connections.

I used to use KLM alot in years gone by but they, along with many others, seem to have watered down their offering making them no better than any other carrier in my view. Maybe, just maybe, they have seen the light and are reacting poitively to an opportunity they see. Who knows.

 

[Finger66]

We're KLMs prices high from everywhere or just LBA? With fares being "through fares" if the LBA legs are heavily sold then this will impact on the overall fare. Extra capacity could just mean more cheaper fares. Also be interesting to see if this impacts LS point to point traffic, especially as their 733s leave the fleet.

 

[leedslad]

Would we technically need a thread rename too lol

 

[lbaspotter]

Amsterdam - Leeds must be doing good for both KLM and Jet2, as On selected dates Jet2 have scheduled the B737-800 on to the route.

 

[Seasider]

We're KLMs prices high from everywhere or just LBA? With fares being "through fares" if the LBA legs are heavily sold then this will impact on the overall fare. Extra capacity could just mean more cheaper fares. Also be interesting to see if this impacts LS point to point traffic, especially as their 733s leave the fleet.

Last week, I checked out a trip to Nantes in early October and could get £122 return.

 

[dmrodgers]

Off to visit my son in Arnhem late September using KLM to Amsterdam as flight times more convenient, £40 each way which includes the free KLM bus to Arnhem which I consider excellent value.

 

[Finger66]

Amsterdam - Leeds must be doing good for both KLM and Jet2, as On selected dates Jet2 have scheduled the B737-800 on to the route.

If this is the case then excellent news. Are the use of the 800s due to unavailable 300s? Or is it perhaps a test the water to see if it might support an 800 permananently, or even a reaction to KLM increasing capacity? Any which way you are right LBAspotter that this points to a very successful route