KLM

[White Heather]

Last time (the only time!) I looked at booking with KLM via Amsterdam to Montreal, the fare out if LBA to AMS was high, but the advertised price from Amsterdam to Montreal was also high. When booking a through flight though the total cost was well below the fare for the two sectors individually. So the point to point fares were high, but the onward booking resulted in a far more reasonable cost. Not sure if it's still the case but it wouldn't surprise me as it encourages through bookings.

In the end it was cheaper to go with BMi from over the hill (2010 so LBA has lost its BMi service) to Heathrow and then with Air Canada.

 

[CM.]

AMS can’t cope with the amount of traffic they currently have due to security shortages with lines sometimes up to 4hrs which I experienced in September. So unless the airport get that sorted and treat their security staff better I can see these reduced operations lasting longer.

 

[lbaspotter]

Hearing that KLM's Amsterdam - Leeds-Bradford route will now remain operating at it's reduced 2x daily service until the end of the Winter 2022/23 Schedule.

It is hoped the 3rd daily flight will recommence from late March with the start of the summer 2023 schedule.

 

[Finger66]

Sensible move in my eyes. Get everything properly sorted at AMS and minimises the risk of losing customer confidence if problems were encountered at AMS op 3 x daily. KLM been good supporters of LBA over the years so will be back to full schedule as soon as they can be

 

[lbaspotter]

KLM CITY HOPPER SUMMER 2023 SCHEDULE

KLM's Amsterdam - Leeds/Bradford routes looks to be back to 20x weekly (3x daily Mon-Fri, Sun & 2 daily Sat) with all flights been operated by KLM City Hopper's fleet of Embraer 190's with no smaller Embraer 175's or the brand new Embraer 190-E2's in site.

MONDAY TO FRIDAY

-------------------N/S--------------- / KLM1540 = LBA 06:20 – AMS 08:40 - E190
KLM1541 = AMS 09:20 – LBA 09:30 / KLM1542 = LBA 10:00 – AMS 12:10 - E190
KLM1549 = AMS 16:40 – LBA 16:50 / KLM1550 = LBA 17:20 – AMS 19:35 - E190
KLM1551 = AMS 22:25 – LBA 22:35 / -------------------N/S---------------- - E190
SATURDAY
-------------------N/S--------------- / KLM1540 = LBA 06:20 – AMS 08:40 - E190
KLM1541 = AMS 09:25 – LBA 09:35 / KLM1542 = LBA 10:05 – AMS 12:20 - E190
KLM1549 = AMS 16:40 – LBA 16:50 / -------------------N/S---------------- - E190
SUNDAYS
-------------------N/S--------------- / KLM1540 = LBA 06:20 – AMS 08:40 - E190
KLM1541 = AMS 09:20 – LBA 09:30 / KLM1542 = LBA 10:00 – AMS 12:10 - E190
KLM1549 = AMS 16:40 – LBA 16:50 / KLM1550 = LBA 17:20 – AMS 19:35 - E190
KLM1551 = AMS 22:25 – LBA 22:35 / -------------------N/S---------------- - E190

 

[LBAYORKIE]

KLM CITY HOPPER SUMMER 2023 SCHEDULE

KLM's Amsterdam - Leeds/Bradford routes looks to be back to 20x weekly (3x daily Mon-Fri, Sun & 2 daily Sat) with all flights been operated by KLM City Hopper's fleet of Embraer 190's with no smaller Embraer 175's or the brand new Embraer 190-E2's in site.

MONDAY TO FRIDAY

-------------------N/S--------------- / KLM1540 = LBA 06:20 – AMS 08:40 - E190
KLM1541 = AMS 09:20 – LBA 09:30 / KLM1542 = LBA 10:00 – AMS 12:10 - E190
KLM1549 = AMS 16:40 – LBA 16:50 / KLM1550 = LBA 17:20 – AMS 19:35 - E190
KLM1551 = AMS 22:25 – LBA 22:35 / -------------------N/S---------------- - E190
SATURDAY
-------------------N/S--------------- / KLM1540 = LBA 06:20 – AMS 08:40 - E190
KLM1541 = AMS 09:25 – LBA 09:35 / KLM1542 = LBA 10:05 – AMS 12:20 - E190
KLM1549 = AMS 16:40 – LBA 16:50 / -------------------N/S---------------- - E190
SUNDAYS
-------------------N/S--------------- / KLM1540 = LBA 06:20 – AMS 08:40 - E190
KLM1541 = AMS 09:20 – LBA 09:30 / KLM1542 = LBA 10:00 – AMS 12:10 - E190
KLM1549 = AMS 16:40 – LBA 16:50 / KLM1550 = LBA 17:20 – AMS 19:35 - E190
KLM1551 = AMS 22:25 – LBA 22:35 / -------------------N/S---------------- - E190

Good news. Shame no B737's.

 

[Finger66]

I think as AMS, and the industry as a whole, returns to normal this is still a very positive development

 

[Nethercote2019]

I’m sure KLM will change aircraft if there is demand

 

[LBAYORKIE]

Looks like KLM CityHopper are operating to all their UK destinations except Leeds today. Seems strange.

 

[White Heather]

Looks like KLM CityHopper are operating to all their UK destinations except Leeds today. Seems strange.

Almost certainly a decision taken by LBA not to open today for just one or two flights.

 

[Aviador]

Almost certainly a decision taken by LBA not to open today for just one or two flights.

And appreciated by all concerned no doubt.

 

[LBAYORKIE]

Almost certainly a decision taken by LBA not to open today for just one or two flights.

I don't see why, if all the other airports are prepared to stay open, Leeds are not.

 

[White Heather]

And appreciated by all concerned no doubt.

There's only one KLM tomorrow from what I can see, so probably only one today had they opened.
A busy Wizz day again tomorrow.

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I don't see why, if all the other airports are prepared to stay open, Leeds are not.

It's common sense, that's why.
Bringing in ATC, fire cover, baggage handlers, ground staff (Swissport), Border Force, refuellers, cleaners, duty free staff, bar staff, and the rest into work, not to mention the cost of opening the terminal itself, all for one flight? Makes zero financial sense. It also shows LBA care about their staff getting a day off at Christmas.
Perhaps the other airports had more than one flight to open for!

 

[LBAYORKIE]

There's only one KLM tomorrow from what I can see, so probably only one today had they opened.
A busy Wizz day again tomorrow.

Post automatically merged: Dec 25, 2022

It's common sense, that's why.
Bringing ATC in, fire cover in, baggage handlers in and ground staff, (Swissport), Border Force in, Fuellers in and the rest, not to mention the cost of opening the terminal itself, all for one flight? Makes zero financial sense. It also shows LBA care about their staff getting a day off at Christmas.
Perhaps the other airports had more than one flight to open for!

Teeside had 2 flights- both KLM, Norwich had 3 KLM and one TUI.

 

[White Heather]

Teeside had 2 flights- both KLM, Norwich had 3 KLM and one TUI.

We dont get more than two any day do we, so that's the most we would have got and we dont get TUi.

 

[LBAYORKIE]

We dont get more than two any day do we, so that's the most we would have got and we dont get TUi.

Maybe Teeside would only have had 1 if ours hadn't been cancelled.

 

[White Heather]

Maybe Teeside would only have had 1 if ours hadn't been cancelled.

Quite possibly.

LBA will have lost nothing of any significance by staying closed . They would have lost money and staff goodwill bringing all those people in for just one/ max two KLM(s). Almost certainly they would have had to pay staff extra, to sit twiddling their thumbs most of the day, as would the likes of Swissport, shop owners, car hire, and the rest. You can't open the airport but have half of the facilities closed. Even the cleaners would have had to go in on Christmas Day. LBA closing today isn't unusual. It's closed on Christmas Day the vast majority of years.

 

[LBAYORKIE]

Quite possibly.

LBA will have lost nothing of any significance by staying closed . They would have lost money and staff goodwill bringing all those people in for just one/ max two KLM(s). Almost certainly they would have had to pay staff extra, to sit twiddling their thumbs most of the day, as would the likes of Swissport, shop owners, car hire, and the rest. You can't open the airport but have half of the facilities closed. Even the cleaners would have had to go in on Christmas Day. LBA closing today isn't unusual. It's closed today in the vast majority of years.

I agree but I'm not sure KLM will see it that way. Werent Wizz originally having a flight today too?

Anyway it's back to business as usual tomorrow.

 

[Kevin Farnell]

I agree but I'm not sure KLM will see it that way.

Have KLM never cancelled a flight? Should LBA go to the expense of many tens of thousands of pounds to accommodate one flight that is likely to have a very low load on Christmas day? I largely follow BHX, which had numerous flights, including several long haul wide bodies and European hub services. So it made sense for them to stay open.

 

[Finger66]

Good business decision by LBA. And we all know MME are throwing money at almost anything just now. Bet we have more flights today than NWI and MME - possibly even put together, so no point stressing over LBA closing on Xmas day and allowing the staff having their opportunity to celebrate