KLM

[Seasider]

I think that KLM have been appalling at cancelling the LBA flights these last few days. They should be able to operate at least one of the three flights planned.

no options on any other carriers either direct or via some other hub to the UK? i know AMS is screwed, but KLM is not the only airline that operates. they have a duty to get your friend home at the earliest opportunity - and that means not just looking at KLM. i very much doubt there will be a KLM option to LBA today btw.

In 2015 I had booked LBA - ABZ on Flybe (an extension of the Exeter service) and they cancelled the route. They offered me a flight from MAN but I said I wanted to fly from LBA. They booked me on an Eastern A/W flight which cost a lot more than I paid to Flybe.

You shouldn't have to insist that they get you home asap but I am afraid sometimes you have to.

 

[KARFA]

with due respect, they are struggling to operate any short haul over the last 4 days. there are points when there have been fewer than a dozen short haul KLM flights in the air yesterday. LBA is not fairing worse than anywhere else - plenty of other outstations have had no or virtually no flights.

 

[LBAYORKIE]

Looking like 'business as usual' tomorrow

with due respect, they are struggling to operate any short haul over the last 4 days. there are points when there have been fewer than a dozen short haul KLM flights in the air yesterday. LBA is not fairing worse than anywhere else - plenty of other outstations have had no or virtually no flights.

 

[KARFA]

Looking like 'business as usual' tomorrow

Care to bet?

 

[gulftraveller]

Then the chance of more heavy snow Friday/Saturday.

 

[LBAYORKIE]

Then the chance of more heavy snow Friday/Saturday.

But no flights cancelled today!

 

[BCFC]

A Melissa Street has just posted this on FB….Awful customer service from KLM.

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[Snackbar]

A Melissa Street has just posted this on FB….Awful customer service from KLM.

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why? Airlines can’t be held not be held responsible for weather disruption…..If every airline paid out compensation whenever a flight was significantly impacted ted/cancelled due to factors outside the control of the airline they’d be either no profitable airlines or ticket prices would be unaffordable…….

 

[Jerry]

A Melissa Street has just posted this on FB….Awful customer service from KLM.

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They have offered rerouting. They can't be held responsible for bad weather.

 

[752]

Looking at the website, the 4th daily isn't due to return until 5th March which is disappointing then Come April we are back to x3 daily for Summer.

 

[Finger66]

GDS seems to mirror that too. Been a bit of a disappointing non starter in all honesty has this

 

[SierraHotel]

Extremely predictable in my humble opinion. Even when 3 daily, many of the rotations were E175 operated.

 

[Finger66]

Still lots of E175s operating most flights. Whilst disappointing on paper if that means we maintain 3 a day then that remains a good thing. Makes you wonder how they would do if AN other "hub" carrier opened up at LBA though

 

[Aviador]

Still lots of E175s operating most flights. Whilst disappointing on paper if that means we maintain 3 a day then that remains a good thing. Makes you wonder how they would do if AN other "hub" carrier opened up at LBA though

I'm sure they would do just fine just as they do from other airports where a second, third or fourth hub operation operates.

 

[Jerry]

At least LeedsBradford has 3 daily flights! Could be worse!

 

[Finger66]

I'm sure they would do just fine just as they do from other airports where a second, third or fourth hub operation operates.

My point being though why are we seeing mainly E175 ops when there isn't any competition. Is the route (and onwards connections) not doing well? A Lufthansa for example twice a day via FRA would surely eat into that connecting traffic. Equally they could be happy resting on current laurels

@Jerry I appreciate the situation CWL fins itself in re KL

 

[lbaspotter]

KLM CITY HOPPER EARLY SUMMER 2026 SCHEDULE

Just looked at the KLM schedule for April, May & June and its no wonder why they have reverted Amsterdam - Leeds route back to 3x daily. All our weekday flights will be operated on the newer larger capacity Embraer 195-E2 aircraft. The older smaller Embraer 175 & Embraer 190's still make appearances over the weekends.

Up to 21x weekly* (3x daily Mon-Sun)

E175 = Embraer 175
E190 = Embraer 190
E295 = Embraer 195-E2

Mondays
--------------------------------------- / KLM1018 = LBA 06:20 - AMS 08:35 = E295
KLM1019 = AMS 09:20 - LBA 09:30 / KLM1020 = LBA 10:05 - AMS 12:15 = E295
KLM1023 = AMS 16:40 - LBA 16:50 / KLM1024 = LBA 17:25 - AMS 19:35 = E295
KLM1025 = AMS 22:40 - LBA 22:50 / ----------------- N/S ---------------- = E295
Tuesdays
--------------------------------------- / KLM1018 = LBA 06:20 - AMS 08:35 = E295
KLM1019 = AMS 09:20 - LBA 09:30 / KLM1020 = LBA 10:05 - AMS 12:15 = E295
KLM1023 = AMS 16:40 - LBA 16:50 / KLM1024 = LBA 17:25 - AMS 19:35 = E295
KLM1025 = AMS 22:40 - LBA 22:50 / ----------------- N/S ---------------- = E295
Wednesdays
--------------------------------------- / KLM1018 = LBA 06:20 - AMS 08:35 = E295
KLM1019 = AMS 09:20 - LBA 09:30 / KLM1020 = LBA 10:05 - AMS 12:15 = E295
KLM1023 = AMS 16:40 - LBA 16:50 / KLM1024 = LBA 17:25 - AMS 19:35 = E295
KLM1025 = AMS 22:40 - LBA 22:50 / ----------------- N/S ---------------- = E295
Thursdays
--------------------------------------- / KLM1018 = LBA 06:20 - AMS 08:35 = E295
KLM1019 = AMS 09:20 - LBA 09:30 / KLM1020 = LBA 10:05 - AMS 12:15 = E295
KLM1023 = AMS 16:40 - LBA 16:50 / KLM1024 = LBA 17:25 - AMS 19:35 = E295
KLM1025 = AMS 22:40 - LBA 22:50 / ----------------- N/S ---------------- = E295
Fridays
--------------------------------------- / KLM1018 = LBA 06:20 - AMS 08:35 = E295
KLM1019 = AMS 09:20 - LBA 09:30 / KLM1020 = LBA 10:05 - AMS 12:15 = E295
KLM1023 = AMS 16:40 - LBA 16:50 / KLM1024 = LBA 17:25 - AMS 19:35 = E295
KLM1025 = AMS 22:40 - LBA 22:50 / ----------------- N/S ---------------- = E295
Saturdays
--------------------------------------- / KLM1018 = LBA 06:20 - AMS 08:40 = E295
KLM1019 = AMS 09:25 - LBA 09:35 / KLM1020 = LBA 10:10 - AMS 12:20 = E175
KLM1023 = AMS 16:40 – LBA 16:50 / KLM1024 = LBA 17:25 – AMS 19:35 – E175
KLM1025 = AMS 22:40 - LBA 22:50 / ----------------- N/S ---------------- = E295
Sundays
--------------------------------------- / KLM1540 = LBA 06:10 - AMS 08:30 = E295
KLM1019 = AMS 09:20 - LBA 09:30 / KLM1546 = LBA 10:05 - AMS 12:15 = E190
KLM1023 = AMS 16:40 - LBA 16:50 / KLM1550 = LBA 17:25 - AMS 19:35 = E190
KLM1025 = AMS 22:40 - LBA 22:50 / ----------------- N/S ---------------- = E295

 

[Finger66]

On paper that looks fantastic. But without being too pessimistic my understanding was that this winter that only the extra lunchtime service was to be E175 operated with others being E190 or E295. And whilst I very much hope what is on paper turns out to be correct I shall remain sceptical until we see what turns up as they do have fleet flexibility and that has been proven through this winter

 

[SierraHotel]

My thoughts exactly F66. I'll believe it when I see it.

 

[Jerry]

My point being though why are we seeing mainly E175 ops when there isn't any competition. Is the route (and onwards connections) not doing well? A Lufthansa for example twice a day via FRA would surely eat into that connecting traffic. Equally they could be happy resting on current laurels

@Jerry I appreciate the situation CWL fins itself in re KL

Only KLM knows what's going on it could be anything from operational restraints to demand and they may well need the bigger aircraft at other airports. Their network is pretty big tbf. Personally I would wonder if an extra frequency would be better than bigger aircraft but they may have challenges with slots at AMS.
As for another hub airline at LBA until LBA attracts one then its going to be an unknown as to whether it would push KLM off the route or spur them into adding more capacity.