Birmingham - NOTAMS

[Ray Finkle]

but have had plenty of 'specialists' including the CAA scratching their heads on how to fix it! So Don't hold your breath, its only been out of service for the last 4 years on and off!!

I wonder at what point they'll decide to just rip it out and start a fresh.

I do hope that they opted for the extended warranty

 

[58terminus]

I wonder at what point they'll decide to just rip it out and start a fresh.

I do hope that they opted for the extended warranty

Who does?? Its cheaper to take a chance. Mind you i have not bought too many ILS systems

 

[Ray Finkle]

"Yes Sir. This model will never let you down. It's bullet proof, water proof, fire proof and can even withstand a nuclear bomb."

"Now, would you like the extended warranty with that?"

© Lee Evans

 

[Matt995]

I wonder at what point they'll decide to just rip it out and start a fresh.

I do hope that they opted for the extended warranty

I believe our ILS system is quite new, so cant see them replacing it, the issue is its location on the airfield, so that the ILS glidepath on 33 is lined up correctly with the touchdown zone, it cant be re-posititoned, so once it was moved for the runway extension, the airport presumably didn't expect these problems.

Obviously solving this issue is creating a headache for the airport, they have tried specialist drainage soil, there were also rumours of them having to take the top of the noise bund off too, so I have no idea what they are trying next to fix the problem!

 

[Deleted member 8862]

Who does?? Its cheaper to take a chance. Mind you i have not bought too many ILS systems

That was the best one Del boy had in Only Fools and Horses, wonder if he's got any left in the lock-up?

 

[JF57]

I believe our ILS system is quite new, so cant see them replacing it, the issue is its location on the airfield, so that the ILS glidepath on 33 is lined up correctly with the touchdown zone, it cant be re-posititoned, so once it was moved for the runway extension, the airport presumably didn't expect these problems.

Obviously solving this issue is creating a headache for the airport, they have tried specialist drainage soil, there were also rumours of them having to take the top of the noise bund off too, so I have no idea what they are trying next to fix the problem!

Should not be any water issues after this dry spell. Must be something else.

 

[58terminus]

Should not be any water issues after this dry spell. Must be something else.

If it is water issues then the problem has not gone away.The water will be back.

 

[Matt995]

couple of latest Notams of note:-

Q) EGTT/QLAAS/IV/NBO/A/000/999/5227N00145W005
B) FROM: 19/01/02 20:00C) TO: 19/04/02 19:00
E) RWY 15 HIGH INTENCITY ALS. 750M APPROACH BAR PORT SIDE HAS FIVE
LIGHTS U/S (30 PERCENT). USABLE PATTERN AVAILABLE.
C0020/19

Q) EGTT/QICAS/I/NBO/A/000/999/5227N00145W005
B) FROM: 19/01/14 23:00C) TO: 19/01/15 06:00
E) ILS RWY 15/33 U/S FOR FLIGHT CALIBRATION
C0167/19

If the ILS flight calibration just a normal check/calibration, or is it connected to the 33 Glidepath (which has been out of service for a year), could this issue be resolved?

 

[JF57]

There have been calibration flights before but it has not been working for years.

 

[GliderPilot]

It's ridiculous how long it has been out of service for

 

[Matt995]

Latest Notam shows airport closed for 2 hours 2am to 4am local for ATC system upgrade!


Q) EGTT/QAECD/IV/NBO/AE/000/145/5228N00148W020
B) FROM: 19/05/23 01:00C) TO: 19/05/23 03:00
E) BIRMINGHAM AD CLOSED DUE TO ATC SYSTEM UPGRADE. FOR THE DURATION
OF
THE PUBLISHED AD CLOSURE, THE CLASS D CTR AND CTA ARE DEACTIVATED
AND REVERT TO CLASS G AIRSPACE. PILOTS ARE RECOMMENDED TO MAKE BLIND
TRANSMISSIONS WHEN ENTERING AND LEAVING THE LATERAL CONFINES OF THE
PUBLISHED CTR/CTA.
C2776/19

Q) EGTT/QFATT/IV/BO/A/000/999/5227N00145W005
B) FROM: 19/05/23 00:00C) TO: 19/06/06 23:59
E) TRIGGER NOTAM - PERM AIRAC AIP AMDT 06/2019 WEF 23 MAY 19
LOCAL AERODROME REGULATIONS, NOISE ABATEMENT PROCEDURES, FLIGHT
PROCEDURES, CHANGES TO SID CHARTS

 

[Kevin Farnell]

I was expecting to read 'ILS R33 permanently withdrawn'.

Kevin

 

[Karl C]

Certainly closed this morning...my flight was circling BHX as runway not open at 4am. Great 12hr 30 mins delay from Dalaman. Don't you just love em.

I need me bed

 

[Matt995]

I was expecting to read 'ILS R33 permanently withdrawn'.

Kevin

I wish I knew what was happening to the 33 ILS Glideslope, been out of action now since January 2018, because of drainage issues, im sure the ground isnt that wet!! must be a major safety concern, anyone heard any more information about it?

Certainly closed this morning...my flight was circling BHX as runway not open at 4am. Great 12hr 30 mins delay from Dalaman. Don't you just love em.

I need me bed

oh dear Karl, Ii'm guessing you were on TOM757 due at 1540 ? think it was meant to be the Olympus A321 but it went tech! ouch!!

 

[Karl C]

We were told a tyre needed to be replaced on the nose wheel, then a baggage loader damaged the cargo door. I don't know if it's true or not, but it made for a very long day and night. Tui did treat us very well though. Glad it's over

 

[JENNYJET]

Is this perhaps a reason so many airlines have chosen to leave?

 

[Matt995]

Is this perhaps a reason so many airlines have chosen to leave?

certainly possible, and maybe a reason we cant attract new airlines?

 

[58terminus]

Can anybody explain to a layman how drainage problems effect the ILS?

 

[Matt995]

I'm no expert, but I believe the so called beam from the glideslope is affected by the wet grass, and causes reflections that mean the glideslope is not reliable for aircraft to use.

it does beg the question, in summer especially when the ground is bone dry how is it affected by it? and how do other airports in countries with monsoon/very wet conditions cope??

it's all very bizzare!!!!

 

[58terminus]

it does beg the question, in summer especially when the ground is bone dry how is it affected by it? and how do other airports in countries with monsoon/very wet conditions cope??

There is a brook that runs across the airfield so i guess the whole area is a catchment area for that.As most of it is tunnelled maybe they forgot about it when building the runway extension.Wouldn't surprise me.The water cannot drain into the brook and saturates the ground.