Route Development & Rumours

[andrew.clarkson]

Hi there Ray and all, I think and know by now that easyJet have no intention of expansion at all at Birmingham airport, just keeping those three routes ticking over, where as in the next three to five years Jet2 I think might even try long haul on US, to see how it goes, if it works, then start to lease aircraft for it, my worse case scenario nightmare dream is if ever Emirates were to announce pulling out of Birmingham, I know that might never happen, but in BA case with the city high-flyer, they weren't probably expecting more than 50% loads, but if we're 70%, then that huge, realised that they can't commit anything further, now they are pulling out because the load factors were alot better than they were expecting, so hence pull them now... Andyc

 

[Brum X]

Hi there Ray and all, I think and know by now that easyJet have no intention of expansion at all at Birmingham airport, just keeping those three routes ticking over, where as in the next three to five years Jet2 I think might even try long haul on US, to see how it goes, if it works, then start to lease aircraft for it, my worse case scenario nightmare dream is if ever Emirates were to announce pulling out of Birmingham, I know that might never happen, but in BA case with the city high-flyer, they weren't probably expecting more than 50% loads, but if we're 70%, then that huge, realised that they can't commit anything further, now they are pulling out because the load factors were alot better than they were expecting, so hence pull them now... Andyc

Never say never Andy (Re Easyjet)

 

[Ray Finkle]

easyJet have no intention of expansion at all at Birmingham airport, just keeping those three routes ticking over

It's two now mate, Grenoble was dropped when Jet2 arrived.

 

[Ray Finkle]

Sorry was actually mean`t to say that the airlines are still adding routes so not Brexit.
I don`t understand BHX as they are either boom or bust no happy medium

We don't understand it either but we're bloomin fed up of it.

There's no planning ahead with new routes or airlines from Birmingham as you don't know if they will still be around when the time comes

 

[Ianbutty]

Shall we just call it quits on this year? But before we all go I would Like to start a series of rumours that:

JAL coming with Tokyo.
Koryo with Pyongyang
Air Africaada with god knows where
Someone will increase capacity to Malaga, Palma and Lanzagrotte....zzzzzzzzzzz
Finnair, return of Icelandair, JetBlue, someone to China, TAP, the return (again) of VLM Mach 3....
Hey maybe even BHX to that new aircraft carrier we have
Who knows
The rumour speculation is not who will we get, but who will we have.

I give up. Been on here what 3 years and never felt to low....but....

...the truly awful film Take Me High was on TV today and I fancy a Brumburger! Thats what we need, the world needs .... a Brumburger! As Sir Cliff arrives in Brum, in said film, he says "this is worse than I thought". But he stayed. There is hope.

Back to the red wine and Sigur Ros CD.

 

[58terminus]

Can we have a new thread. Route development and rumours seems such a contradiction
when you look at what is being posted on it..Particularly the development bit. How about Today's bad news and rumours?

 

[Scottie Dog]

Okay, have we now got the negative out of your systems and are you ready to restart normal service? Seriously I know things appear to have gone a bit "pear-shaped" for Birmingham routes at the moment, but maybe you could take some of these comments over to the General Discussion thread?

Only a suggestion, I'll leave other moderators to decide the best outcome.

Ps - feel free to move my post if you wish.

 

[Ray Finkle]

Airlines and new routes disappearing after only a season or two along with the pull out of some long term players, massive holes in the network looking like they are to remain that way for the foreseeable, sadly normal service has returned

 

[Jerry]

As its gone gloomy here maybe this could hint at something positive in the future.
On the other forum someone has posted that a Titan 757 G-POWH which has been operating for Jet2 has operated STN-GIB and is currently operating GIB-STN. So unless they have operated charters for someone else then possibly could they be operating evaluation flights for a GIB route for Jet2?

 

[thunderchild]

I guess one of the main issues BHX faces is that with little or zero interest from big players such as Ryanair or EasyJet then they only have the legacy carriers or the oddballs to do business with. When the legacies are doing well and looking to expand U.K. ops then BHX is a logical progression - at the same time however when things aren’t going so well BHX becomes the first casualty, it’s the classic last in, first out scenario.

Off course there’s are things out of the airports control - the closure of Wizz’s Poznan base can’t be blamed on BHX for example. However the cynic in me might find it strange that BA CityFlyer dropped BHX and BRS but continue MAN and STN which both happen to be owned by MAG! Coincidence?

 

[TheLocalYokel]

As its gone gloomy here maybe this could hint at something positive in the future.

The darkest hour is just before the dawn

 

[rollo]

Trouble is these days round BHX every silver lining seems to come with a ruddy great cloud or as they say round here "its a bit black over Bills mothers."

 

[JF57]

Edinburgh launch by Emirates is down to 5 per week from 7 even before it starts. Not just BHX suffering.

 

[David_itl]

The EDI route varies between 5 and 7 weekly until April when it gets fixed in place at daily. "Not to do with number of passengers booked" is the line that's being spun.

 

[Brum X]

FlyCar to Arvidsjaur

http://www.fly-car.de/local/media/flugplan/arvidsjaur/endconsumer_arvidsjaur_18_19_060418_eng.pdf

Info provided by davidjohnson6 on dried fruit forum

 

[Ray Finkle]

FlyCar to Arvidsjaur

http://www.fly-car.de/local/media/flugplan/arvidsjaur/endconsumer_arvidsjaur_18_19_060418_eng.pdf

Info provided by davidjohnson6 on dried fruit forum

Have Germania flown these in the past or did I just dream it?

 

[Brummiegem]

Apparently they are to do with the motor industry.Is this a similar set up to all the extra flights and capacity we had on Munich flights in the past???
Don’t worry though they won’t last long.If poor loads/yields don’t get to them then Brexit will.

 

[jfy1999]

Have Germania flown these in the past or did I just dream it?

They have been doing so for a few years.

Could this have been what a recent press release was referring to when it mentioned additional capacity to Munich?

 

[Ray Finkle]

Could this have been what a recent press release was referring to when it mentioned additional capacity to Munich?

An extra Lufthansa rotation has been rumoured for a while.

 

[Coathanger16]

An extra Lufthansa rotation has been rumoured for a while.

I saw an article the other day about Lufthansa wanting to enlarge their hub at Munich. They've already shifted some A380's from Frankfurt, and the article said they were moving some routes across and were considering moving more A380's. So an extra rotation to Munich would make sense - let's just hope it doesn't come at the cost of one less to Frankfurt!