Weather & Technical Diversions, Delays & Cancellations

[Len Fish]

Well it did one circuit around LBA then diverted straight to MAN so something must have been going on at LBA that prevented it from landing.

 

[Yorkieflyer]

If Heavy Rain is reported the landing performance calculations must be made using a very restrictive Braking Action (Medium/Poor) this leaves the 737 unable to land.

 

[White Heather]

If Heavy Rain is reported the landing performance calculations must be made using a very restrictive Braking Action (Medium/Poor) this leaves the 737 unable to land.

The rain was far worse and more persistent late last night yet aircraft were landing. Even if this flight was late and arrived in the rain it was nothing but a shower. Nothing dramatic. At the time it was due it was really nice weather. Bit of an odd one with nothing else affected.

 

[Aviador]

The rain was far worse and more persistent late last night yet aircraft were landing. Even if this flight was late and arrived in the rain it was nothing but a shower. Nothing dramatic. At the time it was due it was really nice weather. Bit of an odd one with nothing else affected.

There could have been a report of poor breaking action.

 

[Finger66]

Perhaps it was also short of fuel so couldn't risk holding and then still have a problem

 

[White Heather]

Perhaps it was also short of fuel so couldn't risk holding and then still have a problem

Well hopefully one of our Jet2 or pilot members will be able to clarify. I wonder if the pax stayed on board for when it returned to LBA or ended up in the bus.

 

[lbaspotter]

So what we are saying is we can now add heavy rain to the list for reasons for diverting along Snow, Fog, high winds and if course not forgetting the runway breaking apart.

Could only happen at Good old LBA!

 

[Aviador]

So what we are saying is we can now add heavy rain to the list for reasons for diverting along Snow, Fog, high winds and if course not forgetting the runway breaking apart.

Could only happen at Good old LBA!

Neh! All the above effect every airport.

 

[Finger66]

This rain issue is becoming quite draining!

Seriously though as has been said it does seem a strange one so hopefully we can get some clarity from one of our Jet2 members

 

[jason1-11]

Neh! All the above effect every airport.

Indeed, but with LBA you have to factor in both the frequency and severity of such events.

 

[White Heather]

Indeed, but with LBA you have to factor in both the frequency and severity of such events.

Except yesterday was in no way severe. It's not as though we had torrential rain, it was a 10 minute heavy shower at tea time, ( well after the flight was due, not sure what time it actually did it's single circuit), and prior to that no wind and sunny.

 

[Yorkieflyer]

Different companies use different performance tools and companies can increase their safety margins if they see fit. If ATC or the ATIS report ‘heavy rain’ that’s what must be used for performance calculations, even just a shower, if it’s present at the time and the aircraft is close to div fuel means unable to make an approach and a possible div. Those is the rules

 

[oldendays]

In my experience it's rare to hear a report of 'heavy rain'. 'Moderate rain' is usually as bad as it gets, unless the criteria have recently changed. Similarly, a cloud base of 'overcast' isn't often reported.

 

[White Heather]

Different companies use different performance tools and companies can increase their safety margins if they see fit. If ATC or the ATIS report ‘heavy rain’ that’s what must be used for performance calculations, even just a shower, if it’s present at the time and the aircraft is close to div fuel means unable to make an approach and a possible div. Those is the rules

Perhaps but Malta is by no means a long flight and Luqa, as far as I know, isn't an airport that has any significant take off performance issues, so you have to wonder why a flight would arrive from there so short of fuel that an almost immediate divert was needed, if indeed that was the case.

 

[Sputnik1]

I was on the team grounding the aircraft, there was no rain and no wind when the aircraft made its first low pass, and no significant standing water on the ground. There were reports of a storm cell, but the aircraft made the pass far below cloud and i think could've quite easily made an approach. Other aircraft were also departing as normal.
Pax remained on the aircraft.

 

[Aviador]

Auntie Beeb strikes again with hurricane force winds this morning at LBA.

The great Met Office super computer cost the tax payer 1.2bn for this nonsense forecasting.

 

[BCFC]

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Auntie Beeb strikes again with hurricane force winds this morning at LBA.

The great Met Office super computer cost the tax payer 1.2bn for this nonsense forecasting.

And I’m flying to Faro this afternoon….thank goodness its nonsense.

 

[mullion]

There was a glitch by the supplier of the app not the BBC

 

[Yordas]

The BBC use data from Meteo in France.

 

[CM.]

Jet2 B738 G-JZHZ from Lanzarote declared an emergency landing due medical.