CAA Provisional Statistics Update

[Seasider]

Re: Passenger Figures Update

That doesn't seem to be a large increase taking into account the Ryanair ops this year.

 

[empire]

Re: Passenger Figures Update

May 2010

LBA amongst the first group of airports to be featured in the CAA provisional stats for May.

253,216 passengers handled, up 4.4% on May 2009, with atms up 4.9%.

Rolling 12-month to end of May 2010 is 2,530,041, down 6% on a year ago.

Other way round - ATM's up 4.4%, pax up 4.9%

 

[TheLocalYokel]

Re: Passenger Figures Update

Sorry for that. I had it written down correctly too. I transposed the two when I typed it. :blush:

 

[eastcoaster]

Re: Passenger Figures Update

That doesn't seem to be a large increase taking into account the Ryanair ops this year.

I think we still had a couple of days in May that the ash cloud affected LBA and some other days when airports throughout Europe were affected. This will have adverse effects on our pax figures. Hopefully June should show a more realistic Ryan Air effect on our pax numbers.

 

[White Heather]

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In the current climate and given the ash cloud disruption at LBA and at many destination airports, all of which will have lost passengers, ANY increase in pax numbers has to be seen as good news. Not many will be able to point to any increase at all over 2009. As Eastcoaster states, June will give a better overall idea of the impact of Ryanair.

 

[Aviador]

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Not all the figures are available on the CAA site but as things stand there was a national reduction of -5.4% during May so an increase of 4.9% isn't bad at all. The national rolling year figures stand at -5.8% reduction, so again with LBA on -6% down year on year is still close to the national average (as of 15 June 2010) and I would imagine that this will change next month when we get a full months figures unaffected by volcanic ash.

 

[Seasider]

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I thought Ryanair were supposed to give us 80 000 pax per month. There must be some routes that are showing large negative over last year.
I will look at the CAA figures and see how many passengers flew with Ryanair last month.

 

[Aviador]

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It's been extremely busy over the last couple of days super for the airport, not so good for passengers 'caked' out on the floor in departures. I'll be shocked if June passenger numbers aren't significantly higher than May's.

 

[Aviador]

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The "underground area" as you describe it has been converted into offices for Ryanair so that is no longer possible. In fact it's probably not been used as part of the departure lounge for well over 15 years.

 

[White Heather]

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Part of the underground area, adjacent to the Ryanair offices, is used as a meeting room. It is where our meetings are held and is clearly not available for public use. At least this busy period is going to maintain the pressure on Bridgepoint to get the terminal expansion up and running.

 

[rhinoscrazy]

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they better get started or ill kill a dog jokes

 

[Aviador]

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OMG Aviador I'm not that old - 15 years....must have been in another life LOL

It's making me feel old because I remember when it used to be the Belfast gate. :whiteflag:

 

[yorkshire]

I do hope 3 million passengers fly from Leeds next year its been a long time coming!

 

[Aviador]

Up to March this year 2.5 million passengers used the airport and the figures are predicted to increase to 3.3 million by March next year.

Quote from JP in a local rag saying he expects the airport to be handling 3.3 million passengers annually by next March. That's a massive rise from the current 2.5m.

 

[lbia]

3.3 million passengers through a terminal that cannot cope with 2.5 million passengers. Great planning there Mr Parkin.

 

[TheLocalYokel]

If you think that's bad Bristol is pushing 6 mppa through a terminal designed for 3 mppa and they reckon that if the government blocks the approved major expansion they can get in 8 mppa 'with some tweaking'.

JP and TH are used to cramming them in. :rockon:

 

[White Heather]

3.3 million passengers through a terminal that cannot cope with 2.5 million passengers. Great planning there Mr Parkin

That is hardly Mr Parkin's fault. You can not pick and choose when an airline like Ryanair decide to set up base. What was he supposed to do - tell them 'no thanks?' - come back in 3 years? The airport needs to be sure it will have this sort of passenger numbers to be able to justify to the board of Bridgepoint that the investment in the terminal is not only worthwhile, but essential. Without Ryanair, I suspect the start could have been delayed until the current recession comes to an end. There may be some pain and discomfort now for passengers, but it is surely a case of 'no pain, no gain' and with passenger numbers of 3.3m by March (and quite likely to be 3.5m the following year), Bridgepoint now know that the terminal is an essential.

 

[Bigman]

I am with White Heather on this one. We are only carrying 2.5m per year after a big drop in numbers since 2007. I suspect they need to see a period of sustained growth before giving the green light.

 

[lbia]

Ryanair did not 'choose' to set up a base at LBIA, they were begged to come into LBIA in the form of a better deal than Manchester was offering them with a load of promises thrown in from the airport. A small airport like LBIA is stupid if they let Ryanair walk all over them, which so far they have. Just wait til 2013 when the deal is up, they will do exactly the same as what they have done at Manchester, Valencia, Marseille, Weeze and so on...

Mr Parkin talks so much rubbish, everyone on here seems to think the sun shines out his arse, but I’m afraid it doesn't. People who do not work within the airport probably do not see to what extent the airport is such a farce, Parkin and Bridgepoint will up sticks at the best possible time for them, most likely when the airport gets 3.3 million (he likes that figure a LOT) .... how fantastic does it sound: LBIA 3.3 mppa, passenger numbers increasing by 700,000 a year, planning permission granted.... and oh yes and a £200 million price tag. He has a very clever way of polishing a turd and being able to sell it for a fortune. He did well at Newcastle and Bristol, as compared to LBIA they had the financial backing to turn the places around. Bridgepoint? Who had ever heard of them before they went for LBIA? Yes a few people, but not many. They are here to make a quick few million, which so far hasn't worked out. I bet anything that they will dispose of LBIA as soon as possible.

White Heather you mentioned 'no pain, no gain' - have you been in security and departures on a weekend? The air conditioning doesn't work, the place is a fire risk, escalators don't work - and the ones that do constantly break down as they are overloaded. The departure lounge (if you can call it that) has lost 90 yes 90 seats to accommodate the 'Premiere Lounge' - what a joke. Does no one see that the terminal is NOT going to change in the foreseeable future! Why spend money to refurbish and extend the executive lounge when (according to Parkin) by this time next year the terminal will be well under way - supposedly right where the new premiere lounge is. I’d like to see how this talk of a 3rd Ryanair aircraft will work out, there are not enough gates at LBIA and we are not even into August yet. No parking stands for another Ryanair aircraft – The only light at the end of the tunnel is that Jet2 are going self handling for baggage and busses – meaning from October no airport or Servisair involvement in anything. No more ‘Ryanair takes preference crap’

I feel really annoyed writing all this, I’ve supported the airport and try my best when at work to look at the positives, but honestly there are very few. The way the airport is getting more passengers, all well and good but Christ, I bet half of them will go straight back to Manchester after the ‘fantastic’ user experience at LBIA.

 

[backtrack]

Ryanair did not 'choose' to set up a base at LBIA, they were begged to come into LBIA in the form of a better deal than Manchester was offering them with a load of promises thrown in from the airport. A small airport like LBIA is stupid if they let Ryanair walk all over them, which so far they have. Just wait til 2013 when the deal is up, they will do exactly the same as what they have done at Manchester, Valencia, Marseille, Weeze and so on...

Mr Parkin talks so much rubbish, everyone on here seems to think the sun shines out his arse, but I’m afraid it doesn't. People who do not work within the airport probably do not see to what extent the airport is such a farce, Parkin and Bridgepoint will up sticks at the best possible time for them, most likely when the airport gets 3.3 million (he likes that figure a LOT) .... how fantastic does it sound: LBIA 3.3 mppa, passenger numbers increasing by 700,000 a year, planning permission granted.... and oh yes and a £200 million price tag. He has a very clever way of polishing a turd and being able to sell it for a fortune. He did well at Newcastle and Bristol, as compared to LBIA they had the financial backing to turn the places around. Bridgepoint? Who had ever heard of them before they went for LBIA? Yes a few people, but not many. They are here to make a quick few million, which so far hasn't worked out. I bet anything that they will dispose of LBIA as soon as possible.

White Heather you mentioned 'no pain, no gain' - have you been in security and departures on a weekend? The air conditioning doesn't work, the place is a fire risk, escalators don't work - and the ones that do constantly break down as they are overloaded. The departure lounge (if you can call it that) has lost 90 yes 90 seats to accommodate the 'Premiere Lounge' - what a joke. Does no one see that the terminal is NOT going to change in the foreseeable future! Why spend money to refurbish and extend the executive lounge when (according to Parkin) by this time next year the terminal will be well under way - supposedly right where the new premiere lounge is. I’d like to see how this talk of a 3rd Ryanair aircraft will work out, there are not enough gates at LBIA and we are not even into August yet. No parking stands for another Ryanair aircraft – The only light at the end of the tunnel is that Jet2 are going self handling for baggage and busses – meaning from October no airport or Servisair involvement in anything. No more ‘Ryanair takes preference rubbish’

I feel really annoyed writing all this, I’ve supported the airport and try my best when at work to look at the positives, but honestly there are very few. The way the airport is getting more passengers, all well and good but Christ, I bet half of them will go straight back to Manchester after the ‘fantastic’ user experience at LBIA.

Thats an interesting read there lbia, and do you know what i think your right.

If Ryanair dont get what they demand from LBA, they will just leave they really dont care. Indeed, so far the passenger numbers have been good and it seems to have been a success choosing to base at LBA. There is definately no room for a third FR aircraft, we do not have enough stands to cater for that type of aircraft with all the rest which nightstop. Its going to be a case soon where the November taxiway is to be used to park aircraft overnight if nothing is done. Then that causes problems for B757 or heavier aircraft, such as PIA which will have to backtrack the runway and exit off Delta before taxying into the ramp. One major problem i have always said at LBA, is the fact we do not have a parrallel taxiway, all this backtracking, or line up and wait malarky takes too much time, a parrallel taxiway even just to the end of 32 would ease so much congestion at peak periods and allow more movements.

The departure lounge, as lbia said harder for people who dont work at the airport to understand but is horrendous, if one flight is delayed, its like a cattle truck in there, no room to breathe nevermind move anywhere. It needs to be re-designed and be more open plan, there is too much crammed into such little area, for example that shoe shop upstairs, has anyone ever bought anything from there?

The sooner this development is done, and Bridgepoint leave the better. We need someone interested in airports and who want to sustain that interest, not just a little project for someone to make a few quid. The amount of complaints i hear from passengers about the whole place, its just embarrasing, and you dont know what to say.

Another area, lbia did not mention was Immigration, and Arrivals. In my opinion this needs to be completely ripped out and done again. I mean how often do people use Carasel 4, what a waste of space that is now we have no LHR flights. Even Brussels doesnt go on that belt anymore, its hardly ever used. Immigration complain there is too many passenger throughput at peak periods and people end up queing for over an hour , which by this time another ten flights have landed, so theres now another 1000 pax behind them.

I think jet2 also know how bad it is, hence why they want to self handle everthing of theres. They are sick of always being put on bussing stands all the time, like some believe FR come first. I dont fault jet2 one bit for taking their own bags and complete handling, Servisair cant deal with it all anymore thats obvious to anyone who works there. You just have to look what happens when the PIA lands. Thats it, the airport comes to a standstill, and its only an A310, god forbid they ever bring in this B777.

Sorry to rant but lbia you got me going. Its a strong subject and its shared (unfortunately) by many more poeple that let on.