TUI Airways

[markietg]

Has there been any mention of Wizz? And what their plans are going forward?

Not today….

 

[Sherburnflyer92]

TUI are taking action before Jet2. Fair and wise move.

There are 2 options - they'll do nothing knowing they have larger market share of some markets and people will come to them in Yorkshire if TUI doing nothing in Yorkshire.

Or go full defense and add.

I feel it'll be the former rather than the latter.

EDIT: Winter may see additions. Summer I don't think we'll get them.

 

[Aviador]

I agree @Sherburnflyer92 This will be a decisive moment for TUI at LBA. This will go one of two ways in my opinion. They admit the error of their ways and re base at LBA or they will ignore LBA and focus solely on Manchester. I fear it will be the latter but if it is it's their loss.

 

[752]

TUI are clearly not ignoring their Yorkshire customers with todays announcement. I’m shocked LBA was so quick to post on social media! Hopefully their will be more to come. Agreed it does seem underwhelming at the moment but if LBA can prove itself / base / encouraging bookings then hopefully more will come. Tunisia / Egypt / Cape Verde, markets TUI will have to themselves

 

[A400]

Not today….

Thanks. We will see what happens over the next few days.

 

[Sherburnflyer92]

TUI are clearly not ignoring their Yorkshire customers with todays announcement.

Or having to go back to drawing board for S23 and re alter plans etc. What works what doesn't?

I think TUI ignoring Yorkshire is something they regretted back in 2003 and beyond. There is a good opportunity here which if they ignore again is to their own detriment.

 

[markietg]

Thanks. We will see what happens over the next few days.

I’m positive we will…. I’m sure the next few days will just wizz by!

 

[752]

Yup, not ideal the times / duration TUI has on sale yet, however they may have announced routes to most likely retain bookings hopefully a base will be following

 

[Sherburnflyer92]

I’m positive we will…. I’m sure the next few days will just wizz by!

Hope this is reference TUI and not the purple monster.

 

[752]

Purple monster incoming by the sounds of it..

 

[Sherburnflyer92]

Purple monster incoming by the sounds of it..

They can hold and divert for me... and not return.

 

[White Heather]

They can hold and divert for me... and not return.

If Wizz come and operate routes not operated by your favourite airline, Ryanair, then it's a good thing. Ryanair are unlikely to operate to the likes of Bucharest, Sofia, Katowice,Kaunas etc. so why not? The more carriers the better. And it will make a change to see your Purple Monster Airbus aircraft on the deck instead of endless 737 types.

However, this, is the TUi thread. There are other places to debate Wizz.

 

[LBAYORKIE]

I agree @Sherburnflyer92 This will be a decisive moment for TUI at LBA. This will go one of two ways in my opinion. They admit the error of their ways and re base at LBA or they will ignore LBA and focus solely on Manchester. I fear it will be the latter but if it is it's their loss.

I agree, it will take a lot to convince me that Tui have any serious interest in LBA.

 

[mdobuk21]

Yep, get the Wizz’s in, 320/321 neos !

 

[louis_walton]

TUI are clearly not ignoring their Yorkshire customers with todays announcement. I’m shocked LBA was so quick to post on social media! Hopefully their will be more to come. Agreed it does seem underwhelming at the moment but if LBA can prove itself / base / encouraging bookings then hopefully more will come. Tunisia / Egypt / Cape Verde, markets TUI will have to themselves

I feel there quickness to announce the flights could be just to make a point they have “won the war” against DSA (in which DSA did claim they’d win), or that there’s more to come than TUI.

All just speculation of cause.

 

[Kevin Farnell]

I feel there quickness to announce the flights could be just to make a point they have “won the war” against DSA

I would guess that the way the situation has been unfolding at DSA over the last few months, that LBA will have been having discussions with TUI (and most likely Wizz) for some time. To the point that a deal was in place with TUI and therefore an announcement was able to be made quickly.

Kevin

 

[White Heather]

I feel there quickness to announce the flights could be just to make a point they have “won the war” against DSA (in which DSA did claim they’d win), or that there’s more to come than TUI.

All just speculation of cause.

Well Tui announced it today too, so clearly a decision was made to jointly announce this, which in view of the uncertainty for TUi passengers is a good thing.

 

[Finger66]

So here’s my overall views on this:
It’s sad when any business is to close and jobs potentially lost, especially in an industry we all care so much about, but as LBA supporters we should be embracing the boost, or potential boost, this can give us.
It’s great to see that TUI are committing more to LBA, however my concern is away based aircraft and W patterns. This could make timings less appealing and based on their past history why they may turn round in 12 months and say LBA just isn’t working. However the plus to this in the short term is that it gives LBA a further 12 months or so to build more stands ahead of a potential base in 2024 and doesn’t put as much pressure on the current bursting terminal. Hopefully that’s the common sense approach both LBA and TUI have agreed on with this deal.
As has been said, if TUI finally realise that LBA is a serious market player, which it is, then the extra operator will help us grow towards that 7mppa target, so a small step in the right direction.

Time will of course tell where this all ends up but for now is a plus for LBA.

 

[GolfFox]

So here’s my overall views on this:
It’s sad when any business is to close and jobs potentially lost, especially in an industry we all care so much about, but as LBA supporters we should be embracing the boost, or potential boost, this can give us.
It’s great to see that TUI are committing more to LBA, however my concern is away based aircraft and W patterns. This could make timings less appealing and based on their past history why they may turn round in 12 months and say LBA just isn’t working. However the plus to this in the short term is that it gives LBA a further 12 months or so to build more stands ahead of a potential base in 2024 and doesn’t put as much pressure on the current bursting terminal. Hopefully that’s the common sense approach both LBA and TUI have agreed on with this deal.
As has been said, if TUI finally realise that LBA is a serious market player, which it is, then the extra operator will help us grow towards that 7mppa target, so a small step in the right direction.

Time will of course tell where this all ends up but for now is a plus for LBA.

'W' legs might suit in the short term - is there the physical space at LBA for further 'based' aircraft???

 

[CM.]

'W' legs might suit in the short term - is there the physical space at LBA for further 'based' aircraft???

I’d of thought they would make room for them if TUI decided to base an aircraft at LBA. It’s worth noting that Flybe stop the Heathrow flights at the end of October meaning there will be no night stopper providing an additional stand.