Primera Air

[JF57]

Interesting comments that the MAX9 will have a longer range than the Airbus.

Anastasia Vishnakova: "We will receive the new Airbus in 2018 and open three airports in Birmingham and London, and one in Paris. We will launch flights to Boston, New York and Toronto. We plan to expand, we are not currently able to discover exactly where, but there will be new destinations, and in 2019 we will receive new Boeing 737Max 9 planes that have a longer flight distance and will be able to fly beyond the current Airbus.

Current Airbus so not the neo or LR?

 

[Ianbutty]

Interesting comments that the MAX9 will have a longer range than the Airbus.

Anastasia Vishnakova: "We will receive the new Airbus in 2018 and open three airports in Birmingham and London, and one in Paris. We will launch flights to Boston, New York and Toronto. We plan to expand, we are not currently able to discover exactly where, but there will be new destinations, and in 2019 we will receive new Boeing 737Max 9 planes that have a longer flight distance and will be able to fly beyond the current Airbus.

Does not take much reading between the lines to work out their intent.

But. Where does the 900max get us to? 3510 to 3605 nm range? Washington Dulles just.

 

[Brum X]

Interesting and not BHX specific so my apologies, however Norweigan have swapped CDG for Orly for there upcoming new service to Newark EWR that is due to start on the 28FEB18.

Mighty Norweigan are not running scared of Primera are they ?

Norwegian in last week’s schedule update adjusted planned service for Paris – Newark route, scheduled to commence on 28FEB18. The airline previously planned to operate to/from Paris CDG, however this has switched to Paris Orly. Planned 6 weekly remains unchanged, and the airline has filed 7th weekly rotation (Day 2) from 25MAR18.

 

[Jerry]

Interesting and not BHX specific so my apologies, however Norweigan have swapped CDG for Orly for there upcoming new service to Newark EWR that is due to start on the 28FEB18.

Mighty Norweigan are not running scared of Primera are they ?

Norwegian in last week’s schedule update adjusted planned service for Paris – Newark route, scheduled to commence on 28FEB18. The airline previously planned to operate to/from Paris CDG, however this has switched to Paris Orly. Planned 6 weekly remains unchanged, and the airline has filed 7th weekly rotation (Day 2) from 25MAR18.

Or maybe they are shifting it to provide competition for LEVEL when they takeover Open Skies?

 

[Ray Finkle]

New route to Chania weekly on a Mon from 30th July until 3rd Sept. It looks to be an away based 738.

PF 2941 BHX 16:10 CHQ 22:00
PF 2942 CHQ 12:30 BHX 14:40

 

[jfy1999]

Great to see them branching out. Would it be too much to ask for a few more away based flights to the likes of Corfu and Zante?

 

[Ray Finkle]

It looks as if it may be a Stockholm based aircraft. Their Monday flight gets into Chania at 11:30 then departs back to ARN at 23:00 which fits with our timings.

Great to see them branching out. Would it be too much to ask for a few more away based flights to the likes of Corfu and Zante?

It would sure be nice.

I've not checked around but I wouldn't be surprised if there is a tour operator taking a chunk of seats with the rest on general sale. If so there may be a chance of more away based flights?

 

[nwoody2001]

The seat prices suggest as such ...prices vary from £55 - £199 one-way!

 

[Brum X]

Good stuff Primera Air, our 7th destination. Every little helps

 

[Ray Finkle]

We now have two gaps in the short haul flight numbers sequence, 2935/6 and 2939/40.

Will they be filled?

Barcelona PF2931/2
Malaga PF2933/4
Palma PF2937/8
Chania PF2941/2

 

[nwoody2001]

Well we know from reports that a large majority of the old MON slots were handed to Primera. I’m sure they have the slots, I’m just curious to know if they have the aircraft availability!

 

[Brum X]

We now have two gaps in the short haul flight numbers sequence, 2935/6 and 2939/40.

Will they be filled?

Barcelona PF2931/2
Malaga PF2933/4
Palma PF2937/8
Chania PF2941/2

Well spotted Ray, I'm sure we will all be checking the Primera website in the coming days to see if any additional destinations are added.

 

[Ray Finkle]

Did you know that every 1.4 seconds an Airbus takes off or lands? We’re thrilled that very soon our brand new Airbus A321LR and A321neo fleet will take you on a transatlantic journey.

 

[Otisblue]

I hope this is just a website blip, but a bit concerning............

Sad I know, but I normally check the Primera website quite regularly to check the latest prices and a noticeable difference tonight, and it has been like this all evening.

All of the Boston fares have shot up, cheapest £699 out and £726 return.
The Tues/Thurs/Sat Newark fares are the same £699 out and £726 return.

Skyscanner returns the the same fares.

Coincidentally, Tues/Thurs/Sat are the days the Boston flights do not operate, so the higher fares equate to 7 days and one based aircraft.

All Stansted fares look ok, as do the BHX-Toronto.

I hope this is a website blip and not a sign of flights being cancelled.

Does anyone know the serial numbers of the A321's due to be delivered ? The Airbus A320 family production lists i normally monitor is up to 8150 now and no sign of a Primera allocation.

I really hope this is a blip and/or I have totally misread the situation. With all of the publicity and advertising taking place, credibility would be shot if they started cancelling routes.

 

[Brum X]

Ive just checked dates in June and i could see some days at £149 and then the next £699

 

[nwoody2001]

indeed, something seems to be happening....

 

[Kevin Farnell]

I hope this is just a website blip, but a bit concerning............
All of the Boston fares have shot up, cheapest £699 out and £726 return.
The Tues/Thurs/Sat Newark fares are the same £699 out and £726 return.
Skyscanner returns the the same fares.
Coincidentally, Tues/Thurs/Sat are the days the Boston flights do not operate, so the higher fares equate to 7 days and one based aircraft.
All Stansted fares look ok, as do the BHX-Toronto.

This does seem concerning!
Having looked at the Primera website, the high pricing on EWR and BOS, with normal pricing on YYZ could indicate a 4 x weekly EWR and 3 x weekly YYZ and no BOS.
I sincerely hope this is a blip, especially with all of the marketing and hype that has taken place.

Does anyone know the serial numbers of the A321's due to be delivered ? The Airbus A320 family production lists i normally monitor is up to 8150 now and no sign of a Primera allocation.

This bit doesn't add up. Could the aircraft be listed under a lessor, or other operator name?

Kevin

 

[Ray Finkle]

with normal pricing on YYZ could indicate a 4 x weekly EWR and 3 x weekly YYZ and no BOS.

Looking at Amadeus that is exactly what has happened. Boston has gone and New York only 4x weekly.

Not a great start when you are trying to build brand awareness and consumer confidence.

 

[Ray Finkle]

A further look shows that Boston now starts on Sept 21st which could indicate aircraft delivery delays.

I guess it's still work in progress at the moment.

 

[GliderPilot]

Would i be right in saying that Primera are the launch customer for an A321 NEO LR (long range) varient, or is this just crap i’ve read elsewhere on the internet from poorly informed media