Future Infrastructure Developments

[LBAYORKIE]

They may be treating this as a test case in which case they may be able to secure funding from other eco type organisations.

 

[White Heather]

They may be treating this as a test case in which case they may be able to secure funding from other eco type organisations.

They are already doing that with the Bristol case.

 

[Wardair166]

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[Aviador]

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For new members of the site, or for those just browsing, the above image shows aircraft parking stands which are essentially already there. The only new parking stands planned are those opposite the replacement terminal building for two aircraft. These only replace stands that are to be occupied by the replacement terminal which is to be built on part of the aircraft parking area.

 

[Aviador]

They are already doing that with the Bristol case.

Are they though? The environmental argument has already been won as 7.1mppa was approved in the previous planning application. In contrast Bristol is applying to increase passenger numbers. It's a completely different situation. If in 5 years time LBA decides to apply to handle 10mppa then we'll be in the same situation as BRS is now as it will be a new application to increase passengers beyond what has been agreed in the "route 2030". It will be incredibly difficult to disapprove what is essentially a replacement terminal building built on concrete that already exists.

 

[White Heather]

Are they though? The environmental argument has already been won as 7.1mppa was approved in the previous planning application. In contrast Bristol is applying to increase passenger numbers. It's a completely different situation. If in 5 years time LBA decides to apply to handle 10mppa then we'll be in the same situation as BRS is now as it will be a new application to increase passengers beyond what has been agreed in the "route 2030". It will be incredibly difficult to disapprove what is essentially a replacement terminal building built on concrete that already exists.

I am simply saying what TheLocalYokel said - that anti airport groups aided by Extinction Rebellion are funding the challenge against Bristol Airport expansion, as they see it as a test case.
I have said before though that LBA and Bristol are very different. Even with 7.1m pax pa, LBA will be nowhere near the passenger throughput that Bristol already has and some 4m short of what they want.

 

[Heathrowflyer]

Just been reading about judicial reviews, 30k is the basic amount quoted that will get the issue in front of a judge to do the review.

 

[Coathanger16]

Are they though? The environmental argument has already been won as 7.1mppa was approved in the previous planning application. In contrast Bristol is applying to increase passenger numbers. It's a completely different situation. If in 5 years time LBA decides to apply to handle 10mppa then we'll be in the same situation as BRS is now as it will be a new application to increase passengers beyond what has been agreed in the "route 2030". It will be incredibly difficult to disapprove what is essentially a replacement terminal building built on concrete that already exists.

I am simply saying what TheLocalYokel said - that anti airport groups aided by Extinction Rebellion are funding the challenge against Bristol Airport expansion, as they see it as a test case.
I have said before though that LBA and Bristol are very different. Even with 7.1m pax pa, LBA will be nowhere near the passenger throughput that Bristol already has and some 4m short of what they want.

We all know that Bristol and Leeds applications are different, but for the likes of Extension Rebellion airport expansion is airport expansion. Doesn't matter if the development leads to more flights or not, they are anti any airport development.

Came across this XR "stunt" yesterday (happened a while ago but only saw it yesterday) - think it sums up perfectly the kinds of people XR are:



Wish they could stay there tbh!

 

[rollo]

The holes are not deep enough.

 

[Aviador]

The holes are not deep enough.

I wonder what the Chinese would do with them if they tried to stop them building their 200 new airports.

 

[Wardair166]

Line them up against a wall....

 

[LBA4EVER]

The holes are not deep enough.

Where is that quick sand when you need it or one of them tides that catches many out when it circles around people haha.

 

[Heathrowflyer]

Its all this celebrity support for ER( who fly everywhere first class or on private planes) that gets me.

 

[White Heather]

The Labour deputy leader of Wakefield Council has come out and said the approval of the terminal is a disaster and he wishes the campaign to stop it success. This is the same party that generally approved it in Leeds and raised no formal objection in Bradford. Is it any wonder they can't win an election when all of them have opposite views. If the Labour Party win the West Yorkshire Mayor election then we could end up with a Mayor being challenged by her own party locally, for whom she is supposedly fighting!

 

[superking]

Sounds very much like North Somerset councillers. They keep rejecting various planning applications and passing things that should not be passed. It goes to show in many ways the councillers dont know what they are doing.

 

[KARFA]

the typical profile of councillors is in line with the reward they get - basically if you are giving peanuts don't be surprised you only get monkeys. unfortunately if you want better quality councillors it will cost us more in council tax.

 

[Aviador]

The Labour deputy leader of Wakefield Council has come out and said the approval of the terminal is a disaster and he wishes the campaign to stop it success. This is the same party that generally approved it in Leeds and raised no formal objection in Bradford. Is it any wonder they can't win an election when all of them have opposite views. If the Labour Party win the West Yorkshire Mayor election then we could end up with a Mayor being challenged by her own party locally, for whom she is supposedly fighting!

Well no problem there then if the campaign to stop it is a success. The good folk of West Yorkshire will simply be able to utilise the extra 15 mppa capacity increase from Manchester airport.

These people live in a bubble.

 

[LBAYORKIE]

The Labour deputy leader of Wakefield Council has come out and said the approval of the terminal is a disaster and he wishes the campaign to stop it success. This is the same party that generally approved it in Leeds and raised no formal objection in Bradford. Is it any wonder they can't win an election when all of them have opposite views. If the Labour Party win the West Yorkshire Mayor election then we could end up with a Mayor being challenged by her own party locally, for whom she is supposedly fighting!

The Labour party need to remember what the name of their party means and what they are supposed to stand for. Theres no wonder they did so badly at the last election.

 

[ls27]

Well KARFA I don't agree with you. After I spent over 46 years in Local Government, going back to the late 50s when the Councillors could only claim expenses., I can tell you that there was a far better breed of LOCAL Councillors. They were interested in the community and were always accessible to the voters. When they became paid, in some cases more than the full time staff, they became experts at everything and masters of nowt. They are professional now and live in a world of there own, and accountable only to the party, and not the electorate. These I believe this was the Blair's idea.

 

[Len Fish]

If the Labour Party win the West Yorkshire Mayor election then we could end up with a Mayor being challenged by her own party locally, for whom she is supposedly fighting!

If Tracy Brabin, my local MP, does win the Mayoral election I get the impression she’s a woman with a mind of her own who won’t be too bothered about opposition from her misguided Labour MP colleagues in West Yorkshire. She currently represents a relatively poor area that desperately needs an economic boost so although she’s a supporter of measures to combat climate change she’s also aware of the necessity for balance when it comes for jobs. I could of course be entirely wrong!