Future Infrastructure Developments

[lbia]

LBIA strikes again. The covered walkway has been CALLED off due to FUNDING ISSUES! How this airport is allowed to stay open completely baffles me. If this summer did not put people off from flying out of LBA, next summer sure will. Why is it so hard for this utterly s*** airport to actually do something right for once!

 

[Galaxy]

If that is true WHAT A JOKE.

 

[lbia]

Apparently there is enough money to create a covered walkway to stand 9, so they have scrapped it until next winter at the earliest as a half job would completely mess up the stands.

This comes just days after the new road layout at stand 6 was severely cocked up. The airport gave the wrong plans to the contractors who then painted all the new road markings. It only was when several passengers were nearly run over by fuel tankers the realised they had cocked up. The new layout is still crazy, and very very dangerous, despite being corrected by the contractors at a nice price to LBA.

The airport is a catalogue of disasters, a running joke and complete embarrassment. As usual everything being done on a shoe string. The loyal Bridgepoit supporters really need to wake up and smell the coffee. I hope to god these idiots leave soon and let someone who actually gives a s*** run the place.

 

[yorkshire]

What a joke..it seems we have a bunch of idiots running our aiport. i have to agree with LUFC pete will we ever get a decent size terminal instead of titivating bits here and there.

I wonder what the YEP will have to say about this then?.

 

[Sherburnflyer92]

I wonder what the YEP will have to say about this then?.

*moans*. *compares to manchester's terminal investment*. *has a little winge about the aiprort, and states that it will still be the same* *then to pi55 some pilots off you risk your life flying from leeds when its windy* ... JUST CAUSE THEY CAN! .... IDIOTS.

 

[Aviador]

lbia

Please tone down your comments regarding the safety of the apron road. I am not saying your comments are either right or wrong but you are are making yourself liable if the information you have given is not factually correct with evidence to back up your claim. Forums4airports cannot accept responsibility for individual posts made by members of the forum. That responsibility rests with the post author.

With regards to the airport masterplan, the requirement was to inform the public of potential plans so to remove any elements of surprise in the future. Any updated plan could include much of the previous plan as there is no timescale to carry out any such work.

 

[lbia]

The factual evidence I have on the safety on stand 6 is as follows:

- the airside safety unit have said that a minimum of 2 escort staff members need to be present when boarding/disembarking due to two separate blind spots. This is where a passenger was very nearly run over last week.
- the road is too tight for two vehicles to pass safely when an aircraft is parked on stand 5 & 6, one vehicle has already been damaged.
- one airline has refused to use stand 6 altogether, and another airline has refused to use stand 6 when an aircraft is parked on stand 5 as passengers have to walk next to a fuel tanker and 4 metres from the propellers (if it's a prop a/c on stand 5)
- a passenger was very nearly injured by the OCS ambilift as there is now no designated bay for it, meaning when disembarking buses at stand 5 for all inbound international flights, passengers are exposed to the service side of the ambilift which of anyone has seen it in operation, it has a moving floor that could potentially squash anyone under it.

If I'm not allowed to express this, I will no longer use this forum. As I said before, the people that continuously support the idiotic decisions of the airport management really need to wake up.

 

[Aviador]

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[EX9]

The factual evidence I have on the safety on stand 6 is as follows:

- the airside safety unit have said that a minimum of 2 escort staff members need to be present when boarding/disembarking due to two separate blind spots. This is where a passenger was very nearly run over last week.
- the road is too tight for two vehicles to pass safely when an aircraft is parked on stand 5 & 6, one vehicle has already been damaged.
- one airline has refused to use stand 6 altogether, and another airline has refused to use stand 6 when an aircraft is parked on stand 5 as passengers have to walk next to a fuel tanker and 4 metres from the propellers (if it's a prop a/c on stand 5)
- a passenger was very nearly injured by the OCS ambilift as there is now no designated bay for it, meaning when disembarking buses at stand 5 for all inbound international flights, passengers are exposed to the service side of the ambilift which of anyone has seen it in operation, it has a moving floor that could potentially squash anyone under it.

If I'm not allowed to express this, I will no longer use this forum. As I said before, the people that continuously support the idiotic decisions of the airport management really need to wake up.

All Flights require a minimum of two escorts, if not more, one generally at the front and one at the back. One also has to watch any crossing. The exception being if you are coming directly off stand 6 into domestic arrivals where you can do both (now).

The gap between 5 and 6 is only an issue to the tankers simply because of their length. At first there was an issue with the new crossing layout, it has now been corrected and is no real issue.

Take for example a Dash 8, you walk within a meter of the propeller disembarking the aircraft in the first place. They are secured with a prop tie. On Stand five there is a separation fence between the walking in lane from the busses upto the arrivals door. No passengers would ever we walking past an aircraft down that lane when it is coming on/off stand. They would be held on the bus.

In regards to the ambulift, it lives down in a box on stand nine, the other up with the loading bins. It is not left near stand five nor is the scissor mechanism exposed unless in use, each side of the vehicle is no different to anything else in terms of a hazard. The aircraft that use 5 and 6 generally cant even accept the ambulift, so i don't understand how/when it would be even mixing with passengers.

 

[Bhowani]

As I won't be flying out until 27th January & therefore won't be airside until then, would one of the main contrbutors to this thread like to draw a diagram for us? The mechanics of airside are actually quite interesting in themsleves!

 

[User0001]

Am I right in thinking that the originally planned terminal enlargement pictures are now not on the LBIA website to view?

 

[whoshotjimmi]

Hi everyone. I am in a simmilar quandry to Aviador with regards internet availability - having moved house i am currently without a connection. It seems, however, that plenty has gone on in just over a week. The covered walkway situation has the potential to become one of those long running farces. If the money was not available to do it, why was it brought forward and announced?

LUFC Pete - all the photos of the terminal development are availble on the LBA website - indeed, a few more have surfaced since i last had a peek.

 

[tleeds]

The link is here for anyone having difficulties getting to that page:

http://www.leedsbradfordairport.co.uk/a ... pment-2011

They are still keen to advertise the 'Covered Walkway'. I know its far fetched, but I don't suppose their is anything official to say the Covered Walkway isn't going ahead?! Surely after they advertised it so much and used it as one of the key points to the development, there has to be something, legally, saying they have to announce any stop in works and also promote when this should be done if it is due to be delayed.

 

[EX9]

Am I right in thinking that the originally planned terminal enlargement pictures are now not on the LBIA website to view?

If you mean the extension ones, they seem to have been replaced by the new 'development' pictures taking over its page.

 

[User0001]

Yeah thanks EBC,

the terminal extension now consigned to history. It really would have been a big step in the right direction. Chatted to the airport guys about the planned extension all those years ago when it was fanfared.

So the delay of the past 3 years was nothing to do with planning issues it was to do with a big reduction in ambition of physically enlarging the terminal, it would seem.

And no Leeds Bradford Airport I don't find your plans for more squeezed in shops and a bus shelter (now cancelled) exciting at all. This is exactly what local government ownership of the airport was like; very little money to do anything properly.

No doubt you'll come back posting something or other about phase 2 / later dates / money set aside etc etc but to me the situation is as clear as day.

 

[Aviador]

Bhowani - please could you elaborate further in the Runways, Aprons & Taxiways Thread?

The economy is looking very bumpy to say the least, I know this doesn't really alter the fact that the terminal extension should really have already been done but you can't blame Bridgepoint for wanting to be cautious. Under Bridgepoint management the airport has lost numerous full service routes through no fault of their own and this will have inevitably lead to the company being cautious. We are living in a very different world now to when the airport was sold.

The work that is being carried out right now is what I always thought should have been done first anyway and it wasn't even in the original plans. As I have commented before, the work being undertaken now will change the shape and appearance of the ground floor level giving it a much more open and larger feel. The new floor and use of the former office space along with the joining up with the old Food Village space will make the terminal feel significantly bigger.

One final note, it's going to be ready for any potential extra passengers visiting the UK for the London Olympics.

 

[wawkrk]

I find it disgraceful that a contractor is now being sought for the 50m pound government funded link road to DSA when LBA gets zilch.Well done Caroline Flint. Leeds disloyal anti airport councillors take note. The majority of the public use the airport not the tree huggers.

 

[Aviador]

Lift shaft and escalator pits.

Check-in desks covered during the night time work.

Pillars stripped to basic metal work

As you can see, the work is progressing well with Morgan Sindall providing a day and a night shift. The majority of the work in the check-in area is being carried out during the night. Much of the work in the old food village is being carried out during the day.

 

[Aviador]

They're not of any sensitive areas.

 

[Moo2009]

Don't no if posted this in correct place but reference to the covered walkway. Just now the easyjet passengers are waiting to board well at the same time the ryanair passengers which are getting off are been made to wait on the airside path in a blowing gale. Not good for the passenger experience