easyJet

[Statto]

Can you slot sit for just 6 weeks. Surely to protect a slot you would have to operate for the full IATA season. And is GVA sufficiently slot-constrained that EZY would need to undertake slot sitting? They look to have 14 or 15 aircraft based at GVA, so isn't a much more likely explanation that they have the flexibility to switch between different routes to meet demand. If there is increased demand in Jan/Feb from UK based skiers, and less demand between GVA and say the Southern Med, then it seems entirely logical to me that you would shift things around. Exactly the same reason why the Paris aircraft/slot used to fly LBA/CDG will be used to fly CDG-xxx during July and August.

As for the flight times, well as I mentioned above, GVA is a large base for EZY. Which means every night there are 14 or 15 arrivals as the fleet comes home, and every morning the same number of early departures as it sets out again. On that basis, I would have thought they have considerable experience of customer's appetite to arrive/depart at those times.

 

[752]

Can you slot sit for just 6 weeks. Surely to protect a slot you would have to operate for the full IATA season. And is GVA sufficiently slot-constrained that EZY would need to undertake slot sitting? They look to have 14 or 15 aircraft based at GVA, so isn't a much more likely explanation that they have the flexibility to switch between different routes to meet demand. If there is increased demand in Jan/Feb from UK based skiers, and less demand between GVA and say the Southern Med, then it seems entirely logical to me that you would shift things around. Exactly the same reason why the Paris aircraft/slot used to fly LBA/CDG will be used to fly CDG-xxx during July and August.

As for the flight times, well as I mentioned above, GVA is a large base for EZY. Which means every night there are 14 or 15 arrivals as the fleet comes home, and every morning the same number of early departures as it sets out again. On that basis, I would have thought they have considerable experience of customer's appetite to arrive/depart at those times.

Looking at the prices, I don't think they have considerable customer appetite, low fares. excluding the Feb half term as you would expect.

They probably do / most likely do operate that GVA slot for the whole season and switched the end destination to LBA for 6 weeks. To protect your slot / gain historic rights you have to operate 80% of the season 80:20 rule I believe. Hence why I raised my concerns.

GVA Sat / Sun slots are like gold dust so yes, easyJet will need to operate them to protect the historic slots.

easy have on some day 3/4/5/6/7/8/9 flights + a day to the same UK airport giving Skiers the choice and flexibility. LBA is 1 a week with difficult flight times. Again hence my first point of it being a slot sitter and hopefully next year we can have a bigger / better timed program.

 

[lbaspotter]

Looking at the seating plans (Those that choose to pre book seats) the are more pax on the inbound compared to the outbound on tomorrows first EasyJet Swiss flight from/to Geneva

81 inbound
17 outbound

Dose anyone have the actual figures?

 

[mullion]

Ski programme finishes in about 6 weeks

 

[Aviador]

Ski programme finishes in about 6 weeks

True but not everyone goes to Geneva to ski and Geneva is a popular place during the summer months also.

 

[SierraHotel]

Plus no offer to GVA by LS during Summer ex LBA, so potential for U2.

 

[Aviador]

I don't know about anyone else but I'm getting bombarded with easyjet advertisements on social media and generally at the moment. Sign of forthcoming expansion....?

 

[mullion]

Look at other airports, Geneva drops by a huge ammount out of ski season

 

[Aviador]

Look at other airports, Geneva drops by a huge ammount out of ski season

It does but it is a route that should be doable year round from a conurbation the size of Leeds and Bradford. The appeal of flights from west of the Pennines is weakening year on year for those of us on the east as the M62 and M60 become more choaked and car journey times become longer.

 

[White Heather]

I don't know about anyone else but I'm getting bombarded with easyjet advertisements on social media and generally at the moment. Sign of forthcoming expansion....?

It's Loganair for me. Lots of ads. A year ago, it was Play. Still waiting for them!

 

[Aviador]

It's Loganair for me. Lots of ads. A year ago, it was Play. Still waiting for them!

I wouldn't mind but I haven't even searched for EasyJet any point.

 

[Finger66]

The current issue for U2 though is that they still haven't found what they are looking for!!!!

 

[Silvercity]

It does but it is a route that should be doable year round from a conurbation the size of Leeds and Bradford. The appeal of flights from west of the Pennines is weakening year on year for those of us on the east as the M62 and M60 become more choaked and car journey times become longer.

Easyjet have flown from LPL to GVA for donkey's year. In fact longer than to MAN. All of a sudden from a year round route its moved to a winter service . There is clearly a demand all year because its run for so long, but now its not there. Maybe they are using the aircraft on a different route that makes them more money, but it does seem odd.

 

[Aviador]

Maybe they are using the aircraft on a different route that makes them more money

More likely the case.

 

[oldendays]

Ski holiday flights usually end mid-April at the latest, not early March.

 

[LBAYORKIE]

Looking at the seating plans (Those that choose to pre book seats) the are more pax on the inbound compared to the outbound on tomorrows first EasyJet Swiss flight from/to Geneva

81 inbound
17 outbound

Dose anyone have the actual figures?

Seems no one does. It would be nice to know as 'your' numbers are disappointing to say the least.

 

[lbaspotter]

Well looking on the Easyjet’s website the new Leeds/Bradford – Geneva route has the following loadings (Pre-booked seats only) so far. The maybe more if some passengers haven't pre-booked a seat. Hopefully these will improve over next few weeks with late bookings.

	Inbound	Outbound
Saturday, January 18th	81	17
Saturday, January, 25th	83	6
Sunday, February 2nd	5	31
Sunday, February 9th	16	31
Sunday, February 16th	0	79
Sunday, February 23rd	84	37

*I'll update each week

From my point of view these are not great figures and could do with a very big boost if we are to retain the service for next winter 2025/26 season.
I also agree the flight timings are not great for a weekly service, so if it dose return next winter it has to be at least with better timings and possibly 3-4x weekly so to offer passengers a better ski break options. I also think they need to do big advertising campaign in our area so all there new LBA routes do well into the future.

 

[Finger66]

The lack of frequency and poor timings is also probably stopping ski operators buying seats on this easyJet service. Better season length, frequency and timings would definitely help. LS have GVA well and truly sewn up just at the moment

 

[LBAYORKIE]

Well looking on the Easyjet’s website the new Leeds/Bradford – Geneva route has the following loadings (Pre-booked seats only) so far. The maybe more if some passengers haven't pre-booked a seat. Hopefully these will improve over next few weeks with late bookings.

	Inbound	Outbound
Saturday, January 18th	81	17
Saturday, January, 25th	83	6
Sunday, February 2nd	5	31
Sunday, February 9th	16	31
Sunday, February 16th	0	79
Sunday, February 23rd	84	37

*I'll update each week

From my point of view these are not great figures and could do with a very big boost if we are to retain the service for next winter 2025/26 season.
I also agree the flight timings are not great for a weekly service, so if it dose return next winter it has to be at least with better timings and possibly 3-4x weekly so to offer passengers a better ski break options. I also think they need to do big advertising campaign in our area so all there new LBA routes do well into the future.

Im

I cant imagine the service is viable with these figures. Maybe it's why they stopped Geneva flights several years back. Easyjet did announce GVA very late in the day though so we can't expect too much, even if Easyjet probably do.

It would be interesting to know how Jet2 are doing on this route. It could well be there's some mixing and matching going on, punters flying out on Jet2 and back on Easyjet or vice versa depending on pricing.

Nb. 16th-23rd is half-term week

 

[Ian Gratton]

The timings of the Easyjet Geneva service are not good. Most ski resorts are a good 2-3 hours from Geneva, the late arrival in Geneva will mean an overnight stay at the airport and a transfer the following day, which means missing at least a morning on the snow. The return flight from Geneva is at a good time and allows a mid morning departure from resort. I would suggest a number of people will go out Jet2 and return Easyjet to get the best times or even go out Easyjet from Manchester