Airport Security, Immigration & Border Control

[a300boy]

Prevention of terrorism Act creates the problem I believe.

 

[KARFA]

Prevention of terrorism Act creates the problem I believe.

At LBA only? As noted immigration isn't required or carried out for arrivals from DUB at other UK airports.

 

[Aviador]

There are no customs checks on flight from the Republic of Ireland. The checks that are usually carried out are made by the Police not customs. This will of course change after Brexit when passengers will be required to clear customs. I would imagine Police checks will still be required so potentially two checks from 2019.

 

[KARFA]

I think the OP is referring to Immigration rather than random police checks?

I am still confused why DUB arrivals are being routed via the immigration hall when they do not have to go through immigration due to the CTA. This seems to be at odds with other UK airports. Immigration doesn't happen at other U.K. airports for DUB arrivals and regular police checks of arriving passengers from DUB by requiring showing of a passport doesn't happen at other U.K. airports either. As I noted DUB arrivals at LBA should be routed exactly the same way as LHR arrivals, so straight in to the baggage hall.

 

[Britannia94]

If I recall from my trip a few years ago from Dublin to Leeds, we didn't end up joining the immigration que at Leeds, we were brought through a seperate door that took us into immigration hall and just walked straight around and down to baggage reclaim with no need to stop to have our ID checked. It could have changed since then.

 

[Aviador]

I am still confused why DUB arrivals are being routed via the immigration hall when they do not have to go through immigration due to the CTA

Dublin passengers do NOT go through immigration at this point in time.

 

[KARFA]

Dublin passengers do NOT go through immigration at this point in time.

Thanks, it just seemed from markietg's posts that he did go up the stairs through the immigration hall.

 

[markietg]

Sorry KARFA, I worded it wrongly. At LBA you get bussed to the bottom of the stairs then you have your passport /photo ID checked by Police special branch officers just to the left of the immigration desks. I said passport because if you fly Ryanair you can ONLY use your passport as your form of ID. If I flew Aer Lingus I could us my passport or any formal type of photo ID.
My main question was why do Police Special Branch check people arriving at LBA from Dublin but there are no checks at all if you arrive into Manchester from Dublin?

 

[Aviador]

Sorry KARFA, I worded it wrongly. At LBA you get bussed to the bottom of the stairs then you have your passport /photo ID checked by Police special branch officers just to the left of the immigration desks. I said passport because if you fly Ryanair you can ONLY use your passport as your form of ID. If I flew Aer Lingus I could us my passport or any formal type of photo ID.
My main question was why do Police Special Branch check people arriving at LBA from Dublin but there are no checks at all if you arrive into Manchester from Dublin?

There is still a threat from the provisional IRA hence the security check on all Ireland flight from North and South of the border. If anything this is likely to be stepped up post Brexit.

 

[markietg]

So these checks only take place at LBA cos they certainly don't at MAN?

 

[KARFA]

So these checks only take place at LBA cos they certainly don't at MAN?

They don't at LHR either. Perhaps it was a one off at LBA? Random police checks do occasionally happen for any flight, but certainly regular police checks from DUB do not happen elsewhere.

 

[lbaspotter]

I can't really see what the major fuss is all about, well as long as you've nothing to hide!

With passport or Photo Id. For sake of everyone saftey in this country honestly dose it really matter if you get a security checked by either boarder force or the Police on arrival, Be it from Ireland or anywhere else for that matter?

 

[tleeds]

*Infrastructure & Development Related Also*

The airport have invested in another X Ray Conveyor to add another security lane. This should be open within the next few weeks and is placed at the end of the room (which has subsequently been extended). They have narrowed the corridor after security taking you around past the Police and Border Force desks before the steps up into departures to accommodate this. It will be used to help staff/fast track passengers passing through security quicker in peak times - as well as normal passengers if there is no fast track queue.

Can't really take photos in security so you might just have to wait and see when you fly.

 

[KARFA]

Has there been a change at security at LBA? Over the last 4 weeks or so it seems that many people (including myself) are not only having to go through the x-ray scanner but also the millimeter wave scanner even when the x-ray scanner has not gone off. It has happened to me every time I have gone through in the last few weeks and I have seen it happening to many other people. Is this a deliberate change to double scan?

 

[Britannia94]

I think it's just picks at random on who's to go through the full body scanner. Previously it would bleep at random but now is not the case but instead people are picked at random to determine whom is to receive a full scan. Could be wrong but just a thought.

 

[Aviador]

An airport can also implement it's own local restrictions relevant to said airport but as a minimum it must meet national requirements currently harmonised under European law as EC300 and EC185.

 

[KARFA]

I think it's just picks at random on who's to go through the full body scanner. Previously it would bleep at random but now is not the case but instead people are picked at random to determine whom is to receive a full scan. Could be wrong but just a thought.

Definitely not random. The x-ray scanner has two types of beeps, one for detecting something, and another for a random selection where sometimes you just need a swab of hands rather than to go in the second detector. Neither beep is going off here, it just seems to be deliberate decision to double scan people.

 

[KARFA]

An airport can also implement it's own local restrictions relevant to said airport but as a minimum it must meet national requirements currently harmonised under European law as EC300 and EC185.

I am sure they can. However, I don't see the logic of double scanning - nowhere else I travel in the UK or elsewhere does systematic double scanning where the x-ray hasn't actually beeped.

 

[Aviador]

I am sure they can. However, I don't see the logic of double scanning - nowhere else I travel in the UK or elsewhere does systematic double scanning where the x-ray hasn't actually beeped.

An X-Ray doesn't actually beep so I think I'm missing the point now unless you explain more. Are you referring to the Walk Through Metal Detectors or the X-Ray Scanners?

 

[KARFA]

An X-Ray doesn't actually beep so I think I'm missing the point now unless you explain more. Are you referring to the Walk Through Metal Detectors or the X-Ray Scanners?

Sorry I am saying x-ray when I mean the metal detectors. The metal detectors do beep if they detect something or if you are randomly selected. In my situation and for others I have seen the metal detectors are not being set off yet I and others are being sent in to the millimetre scanner as well.