Pakistan International Airlines

[Scania1800]

No absolutely not. My point is that, even with three flights p/w to CDG, they just do not have any airframes to open UK, once and if they are cleared to do so. From what I have read, they do not have the money to resuscitate the grounded 777s, nor to lease in aircraft (but then, is Norse really chasing a contract with HB, a paper airline with £100 in the bank?!).

They have been declined bids for GE90 engines, new seats, IFE systems, gears for their 777s and so much more. The new CEO they have appointed is a random Military general apparently. Not looking good for this airline

 

[Matt995]

taken from the PIA forum:-

Information about grounded PIA Boeing 777 aircraft registrations:-

AP-BGL certificate of airworthiness expired on March 23, 2020
AP-BHW certificate of airworthiness expired on February 11, 2021.
AP-BID certificate of airworthiness expired on March 30, 2021.

 

[Brum X]

What a joke of an airline. Stay well clear BHX

 

[Birmingham Aviation]

Any news on Norse potentially operating the route

 

[Hassaan]

I thought I'd look at some pax figures for PIA - these are annual figures:

2000 - 32,155 (KHI)
2001 - 40,307 (14,154 ISB + 26,153 KHI)
2002 - 36,845 (34,873 ISB + 1,972 KHI)
2003 - 63,991 (59,865 ISB + 4,126 KHI)
2004 - 65,158 (60,067 ISB + 1,274 KHI + 3,817 LHE)
2005 - 78,580 (76,254 ISB + 2,326 LHE)
2006 - 78,435
2007 - 80,907
2008 - 94,561
2009 - 99,493
2010 - 106,089
2011 - 102,156
2012 - 97,043
2013 - 97,365
2014 - 82,437
2015 - 72,160
2016 - 85,642
2017 - 81,275
2018 - 81,726
2019 - 90,566
2020 - 32,508
2021 - 8,661 (8,624 ISB, 37 LHE)
2022 - 39,062

 

[Birmingham Aviation]

CAA pushes to lift UK flight ban on PIA after Europe resumption | The Express Tribune

The CAA has contacted British aviation authorities to request an exemption in the security audit process.

tribune.com.pk

 

[Birmingham Aviation]

Are Norse operating the route?
Been very quiet recently

 

[Matt995]

Are Norse operating the route?
Been very quiet recently

Norse were never operating for PIA, there were rumours that a "paper" airline in Pakistan was going to lease a few Norse aircraft to operate to the UK, but this won't happen.

The UK Aviation team, are due in Pakistan this month, with a decision to be announced in February, and possibly PIA "claim" to then start UK flights in March (MAN & LHR rumoured)

Boeing 777-300 AP-BMS returned to service today, after being grounded since September, so current fleet:-

B777-200ER, 3 in service, 3 grounded

B777-200LR, 1 in service, 1 grounded

B777-300ER, 2 in service, 2 grounded.

 

[Scania1800]

Norse were never operating for PIA, there were rumours that a "paper" airline in Pakistan was going to lease a few Norse aircraft to operate to the UK, but this won't happen.

The UK Aviation team, are due in Pakistan this month, with a decision to be announced in February, and possibly PIA "claim" to then start UK flights in March (MAN & LHR rumoured)

Boeing 777-300 AP-BMS returned to service today, after being grounded since September, so current fleet:-

B777-200ER, 3 in service, 3 grounded

B777-200LR, 1 in service, 1 grounded

B777-300ER, 2 in service, 2 grounded.

Birmingham is expected around August

 

[Seasider]

Where are they getting the aircraft from, or are they dropping other routes?

 

[Brum X]

Birmingham is expected around August

August 2026, loooooooool

 

[Scania1800]

August 2026, loooooooool

no not 2026, 2025. I see this may happen if aircraft are return, but this means vitally returning AP-BID, AP-BHW , BMG. They claimed it themselves, but I see this Being delayed

 

[Birmingham Aviation]

More chance of Turkmenistan returning

 

[Scania1800]

More chance of Turkmenistan returning

Turkmenistan isn’t coming?

 

[Birmingham Aviation]

Turkmenistan isn’t coming?

That was a joke

 

[Scania1800]

PIA has made commitments into restarting MAN services by next month, followed by LHR in April, then followed by BHX in august

 

[Paulsstrange]

PIA has made commitments into restarting MAN services by next month, followed by LHR in April, then followed by BHX in august

Where have they stated that or is this not public knowledge? Thanks

 

[Scania1800]

Where have they stated that or is this not public knowledge? Thanks

The airline itself has not made any mention, however Seanm1997 has also mentioned it on this X post, check it out

 

[Matt995]

been speaking to a PIA engineer, so he claims, and he has mentioned the following:-

AP-BGL B772 will never fly again due to corrosion

AP-BID B77W currently in the hanger awaiting new engines, will return to service

AP-BHW B77W currently stored, fate unknown if it will ever return back to service.

so possibly a fleet of 5 B772ER's, 2 B772LR's, and 3 B77Ws in service later this year?

 

[Paulsstrange]

been speaking to a PIA engineer, so he claims, and he has mentioned the following:-

AP-BGL B772 will never fly again due to corrosion

AP-BID B77W currently in the hanger awaiting new engines, will return to service

AP-BHW B77W currently stored, fate unknown if it will ever return back to service.

so possibly a fleet of 5 B772ER's, 2 B772LR's, and 3 B77Ws in service later this year?

To be fair that could potentially include a bhx flight but let's see