Archive Route Development & Rumours

[Scottie Dog]

From today's Airlineroutes:

Jet2.com expands Manchester network from May 2019


Jet2.com in summer 2019 season is introducing additional routes from Manchester, previously not highlighted on Airlineroute. Planned new routes scheduled for May 2019 launch as follows.

Manchester – Bourgas eff 06MAY19 2 weekly 737-800
Manchester – Chania eff 07MAY19 1 weekly 737-800 (2 weekly from 24MAY19)
Manchester – Izmir eff 01MAY19 1 weekly 737-800 (2 weekly from 25MAY19)

Previously reported new route:
Manchester – La Rochelle eff 25MAY19 1 weekly 737-800

 

[Scottie Dog]

From Airlineroutes:

Virgin Atlantic 3Q19 Manchester – Atlanta aircraft changes
Posted 14 August 2018 09:30

Virgin Atlantic during the 3rd quarter of 2019 plans operational aircraft changes on Manchester – Atlanta route, reflected in the OAG and GDS timetable listing. From 22JUL19 to 06SEP19, this daily service will see Airbus A330-200 operating, replacing Boeing 747-400.

VS109 MAN1100 – 1505ATL 332 D
VS110 ATL1910 – 0820+1MAN 332 D

 

[Silvercity]

New easyJet routes for this winter - courtesy of "dried-fruit":

Manchester - Barcelona (1 Dec) - 2x weekly
Manchester - Bordeaux (2 Nov) - 2x weekly
Manchester - Faro (2 Nov) - 4x weekly
Manchester - Innsbruck (9 Dec) - 1x weekly
Manchester - Lanzarote (7 Nov) - 2x weekly
Manchester - Lisbon (28 Oct) - 3x weekly

So others like me on "dried fruit" think EZY going on to LIS, could see TAP discontinue, which would not be a good prospect.

 

[coyotes_uk]

Unless TAP see the shorthaul as a bit of a loss leader to fill the longhaul network?
EZY will obviously go after pax who's final destination is likely to be Lisbon, TAP, will carry some of those but, I would think, mainly longhaul connecting pax.

Nothing to back this up but, I imagine, if you look at BA and MAN-LHR, I doubt it makes tons of money but, the route is incredibly valuable to the network.

 

[EGCC_MAN]

TAP operates MAN-LIS on a 13/7 basis (summer frequency). EasyJet proposes 3/7 service, adding to Ryanair's 6/7 service. So TAP have plenty of scope to adjust frequency on the route - should they deem it necessary - rather than withdraw completely. In my experience, TAP achieve excellent loads out of MAN. But of course, we have no access to yield data.

 

[Silvercity]

Unless TAP see the shorthaul as a bit of a loss leader to fill the longhaul network?
EZY will obviously go after pax who's final destination is likely to be Lisbon, TAP, will carry some of those but, I would think, mainly longhaul connecting pax.

Nothing to back this up but, I imagine, if you look at BA and MAN-LHR, I doubt it makes tons of money but, the route is incredibly valuable to the network.

TAP do not carry many transfer passenger from MAN, its mainly Lisbon bound passengers. I do use the service and transfer at Lisbon, there are only ever a few passengers transferring

 

[coyotes_uk]

Fair enough!

 

[EGCC_MAN]

I have transferred at LIS twice over the last year or so, using TAP services from MAN on both occasions. You have to join the passport inspection queue there anyway, alongside the Lisbon terminating passengers. Only beyond this do you peel off to the transfers channel. So anecdotally, it would be very difficult to ascertain how many pax were transferring off any particular flight.

Having said that, I don't believe that TAP position their MAN operation to prioritise transfer opportunities. They would need a LIS arrival from MAN during the morning for that. Most of the useful long-haul connections have departed by the time the first MAN flight arrives. So the P2P demand must be ticking the right boxes for them. And of course, those short-haul aircraft need to be put to work all day, not just on the morning arrival wave which connects with the bulk of departures to Brazil / Africa etc.

 

[Scottie Dog]

A few updates for you, hot of the press:

Summer 2018

Emirates increase from Low (517 seats) to High(615 seats) density A380 on the morning EK021/022 for 31st August, 2nd, 4th & 8th September and the lunchtime flight, EK017/EK018 26th, 29th, 30th, 31st August and 3rd & 4th September.

As already reported VLM have cancelled plans for services to Antwerp & Ostend.

Winter 2018/2019 season

With the IATA Slot Return Deadline having now past the following updates apply.

Cobalt cancel all slots to Larnaca

DHL once again decide that they are not giving Manchester a Christmas present

Eurowings only operate to Dusseldorf but with an increase from 3 to 4 flights per day

Qatar only increase to 18 per week but with an increase from B787-8 to A350-900

SAS remain at 2 per day on Copenhagen

Singapore stay at 5 per week to Singapore and Houston

As expected Spicejet have had a rethink and will not serve Manchester - not really a surprise

Finally Sunair have released slot for their proposed service to Oslo.

So, that's the bad news. The good news is that there is still planned increase in movements to +11.6% and seats up by 15.8%

 

[Scottie Dog]

Courtesy of Airlineroute:


Thomas Cook expands Manchester – Orlando flights in S19
Posted 21 August 2018 06:30

Thomas Cook Airlines UK in summer 2019 season plans to increase Manchester – Orlando route, as the airline operates up to 13 weekly flights, instead of 9, during peak season.

22JUN19 – 20JUL19 Increase from 9 to 11 weekly (MT2804/2805 Day 6, MT2752/2753 Day 3)
21JUL19 – 19AUG19 Increase from 9 to 13 weekly (MT2642/2643 Day 7, MT2604/2605 Day 1)
20AUG19 – 07SEP19 Increase from 9 to 11 weekly
eff 08SEP19 Increase from 9 to 10 weekly

Following schedule effective 21JUL19 – 19AUG19.

MT2752 MAN1015 – 1435MCO 332 26
MT2940 MAN1015 – 1435MCO 333 7
MT2970 MAN1015 – 1435MCO 333 1
MT2604 MAN1100 – 1520MCO 332 1
MT2804 MAN1100 – 1520MCO 332 4
MT2604 MAN1130 – 1550MCO 332 3
MT2752 MAN1200 – 1620MCO 332 4
MT2604 MAN1200 – 1620MCO 332 5
MT2610 MAN1200 – 1620MCO 332 7
MT2768 MAN1220 – 1640MCO 333 3
MT2642 MAN1255 – 1715MCO 332 7
MT2804 MAN1255 – 1715MCO 332 6


MT2753 MCO1635 – 0555+1MAN 332 26
MT2941 MCO1635 – 0555+1MAN 333 7
MT2971 MCO1635 – 0555+1MAN 333 1
MT2605 MCO1720 – 0640+1MAN 332 1
MT2805 MCO1720 – 0645+1MAN 332 4
MT2753 MCO1820 – 0740+1MAN 332 4
MT2605 MCO1820 – 0740+1MAN 332 5
MT2611 MCO1820 – 0740+1MAN 332 7
MT2605 MCO1820 – 0740+1MAN 332 3
MT2769 MCO1840 – 0805+1MAN 333 3
MT2643 MCO1915 – 0835+1MAN 332 7
MT2805 MCO1915 – 0840+1MAN 332 6

 

[Coathanger16]

United could grow flights by half at Washington Dulles
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/a...ow-flights-by-half-at-washington-dull-451313/

United are evaluating introducing another 'bank' of departures/arrivals at Washington. Whilst I imagine this will mostly be expansion in the domestic US market, could it also see a return of United serving Washington from Manchester?

Interesting quote in the article:

"It's no secret that Dulles is a better connecting hub than Newark" - Ankit Gupta, vice-president of domestic network planning at United.

 

[Jerry]

I've seen posted elsewhere about rumours that TCX will launch a 3 weekly Chicago and that Singapore airlines are looking at SIN-MAN-ORD.

 

[Ashwo99]

Singapore airlines are looking at SIN-MAN-ORD.

Oh I certainly hope so, they are my favourite airline, used SQ51,52 this summer and as my mother was born in Singapore more frequencies there would be fantastic, I assume this is in addition to SIN-MAN-IAH.

 

[Jerry]

Oh I certainly hope so, they are my favourite airline, used SQ51,52 this summer and as my mother was born in Singapore more frequencies there would be fantastic, I assume this is in addition to SIN-MAN-IAH.

Yes as addition but it is only a rumour but if true may explain why AA dropped ORD.

 

[Ashwo99]

Yes as addition but it is only a rumour but if true may explain why AA dropped ORD.

Hopefully it’s true, losing AA may have been a blow to airport but I’d much rather fly SQ to the US, to be fair, I’d rather fly Jet2 to the US (I know they don’t do it scheduled) than any of the so called US majors, second tier rubbish in my experience.

 

[Jerry]

Hopefully it’s true, losing AA may have been a blow to airport but I’d much rather fly SQ to the US, to be fair, I’d rather fly Jet2 to the US (I know they don’t do it scheduled) than any of the so called US majors, second tier rubbish in my experience.

I've used delta a few times now find them pretty good. United i only used once and that wasn't very good I've never used AA so can't compare.

 

[Silvercity]

I've used delta a few times now find them pretty good. United i only used once and that wasn't very good I've never used AA so can't compare.

I used AA once , it wasn't great

 

[Jerry]

I used AA once , it wasn't great

Sounds like i haven't missed out on anything then! Lol

 

[Yawner]

There’s been rumours regarding SQ and other USA flights going round for a few months now. ORD and IAD being the candidates. This was on the back of IAH increasing month on month and extra capacity needed on SIN-MAN. However, this route seems to have suffered a blip recently (unless the SIN-IAH is restricting MAN capacity). The 6th weekly frequency applied for and handed back for this winter just adds to the mystery.

I’m sure SQ could make another thru route work, but whether it’s the best use of their resources is another matter.

 

[Silvercity]

Sounds like i haven't missed out on anything then! Lol

It was on a 767 stuck onboard for hours in Chicago because the loo was broken. Fell asleep because it was a night flight woke about 3 hours later hadn't moved.
When we did , service was very lacklustre.