Hainan Airlines

[ethanegcc]

The 789 is a decrease in seats, therefore I am hoping it means an increase in frequency!

 

[EGCC_MAN]

The respective capacities are 292 (A333) versus 288 (B789) according to seatguru. Obviously, I hope to see a frequency increase on MAN-PEK also though I doubt that a differential of 4 seats per flight would be the trigger for this.

 

[ethanegcc]

It is nice to have newer equipment though.

 

[Scottie Dog]

According to ACL in their pre-season report there was no date given for the increase in frequency. I take that to mean that the frequency changes on 26th March, however that is subject to confirmation.

If I hear anything else I'll let you know.

 

[Scottie Dog]

I've just been looking at the Hainan website timetable for the week commencing 12th June and there are 5 flights scheduled for that week.

It looks as if the extra flight - on a Thursday - starts on 4th May through to the end on June when it reverts to 4 per week.

As I said previously I'll let you know if I see any further changes.

 

[Dobbo]

Sounds like it might be permanent. It would be frustrating if HU follow SQ and CX in going 5x weekly rather than daily, but this is a much better service than a few short years ago.

 

[ethanegcc]

Amadeus shows it into July but not afterwards, hopefully they are playing with the schedules and the five-weekly change is permanent. Obviously GDS is suggesting permanent.

@Dobbo - is the 789 still on?

 

[Land23R]

Any indication of a DUB tag on any of the flights?

 

[Dobbo]

Think that's been dropped.

 

[Scottie Dog]

Just looked at Hainan website and no sign of a direct PEK/DUB flight - at least not in June.

 

[Land23R]

Thanks SD

 

[ethanegcc]

From Hainan's Facebook Page:
'Great News! We are adding a fifth weekly flight during the period in May-June on our Tel Aviv-Beijing route! #FlyHainan'
Hopefully we will receive some confirmation soon of our increase but I hope it isn't just for May and June! It is not bookable yet on Hainan's website so we will wait and see!

 

[Aceshigh]

Where did news of a Dublin tag actually come from ?

 

[Scottie Dog]

It was, I believe, in the Summer 2017 pre-season report of slot requests that is produced by ACL.

 

[Dobbo]

Hainan eyeing Shanghai and Guangzhou from Manchester???

http://airlinegeeks.com/2016/12/02/a-touch-of-class-hainan-airlines-long-haul-product-at-manchester/

 

[ethanegcc]

Only Air China can operate the PVG-MAN route, unless Hainan were to operate HGH-MAN and call it 'Shanghai Metropolitan Area' as some airlines do.

Guangzhou is also very odd as it would be a much better fit for China Southern.

 

[Dobbo]

Well, as I understand it HU can strike a deal with Air China for the rights to Shanghai.

Whether Air China are willing to do a deal or simply want to use/sit on the rights is another question.

 

[ethanegcc]

Air China should not be sitting on the rights, considering this is an extremely needed route. I know Hainan likes to have multiple routes to one airport e.g. BOS now has Hainan to both Shanghai and Beijing.

 

[Dobbo]

Maybe not, but it is a commercial decision for them...

 

[ethanegcc]

Looking back at the very beginning of this thread, amongst the PEK rumours there was also a rumour of a 3x weekly Shanghai 787-8 service.