Monarch Airlines

[JENNYJET]

Just a little question if I may? I notice that Monarch announced Stockholm from Manchester operating the same days as Birmingham. Could this be a one stop service or two Airbuses flying separately?

 

[nwoody2001]

Monarch have announced nothing yet relating to their summer schedule. Others are reporting the route as it briefly appeared on GDS.

If/when announced, it will not be one stop flights! There would be no-sense in such situations!

 

[Brum X]

It most likely will be a success, I know a few people that would like to travel there.

I really hope so, however the flag carrier SAS was not able to make it a success and ended up being a one season wonder, only a couple of years ago.

 

[Ray Finkle]

Conformation of what we already know about Stockholm, bookable from midday tomorrow.

https://www.birminghamairport.co.uk...holm-for-summer-2017-from-birmingham-airport/

Tenerife also sees a second flight added on a Saturday for this winter.

 

[JENNYJET]

Monarch have announced nothing yet relating to their summer schedule. Others are reporting the route as it briefly appeared on GDS.

If/when announced, it will not be one stop flights! There would be no-sense in such situations!

No sense indeed? Why then did Thomson put me on a flight to Kos that stopped at Bristol both outbound and inbound if it would be ' no sense' to do so?

It was a B757, it departed BHX with many empty seats, landed at Bristol and landed at Kos with every seat occupied.

Equally on the return flight, so why not combine services upon one aircraft if it is financially sensible and operationally wise?

 

[nwoody2001]

Nice has also been added )

Good to see that Stockholm is not at the cost of Nice which I know some were worried about!

 

[Brum X]

No sense indeed? Why then did Thomson put me on a flight to Kos that stopped at Bristol both outbound and inbound if it would be ' no sense' to do so?

It was a B757, it departed BHX with many empty seats, landed at Bristol and landed at Kos with every seat occupied.

Equally on the return flight, so why not combine services upon one aircraft if it is financially sensible and operationally wise?

They are charter flights Jenny, that is quite normal these days but for a scheduled flight to operate like that would be very unusual.

 

[TheLocalYokel]

I don't think there are any double drops at BRS any more with charter flights except perhaps Balkan Holidays at the beginning of a season. 20 years ago my wife and I flew to Paphos one winter with First Choice on a B 757 that came from BHX part loaded and returned there the following week part loaded, with the remainder of the seats taken by BRS passengers.

 

[Ray Finkle]

I think this is the schedule based on the first week of Aug and as it stands it's 9 based except Wed and Sat, along with Sun afternoon (I may have missed one). I'm not even going to try an attempt to work out where the W patterns fit in.

Nice drops to 2x weekly (which is understandable given recent events) but the new 3x weekly ARN makes up for the loss. We usually see a sprinkling of extra flights added which could easily fill the Wed/Sat gaps. Not much room for anything new now unless we see a 10th based aircraft.

Mon

AM-9

FAO 06:10 12:45
FNC 06:15 14:45
TFS 06:15 15:45
BCN 06:40 12:30
FCO 06:50 13:10
LIS 07:00 13:40
PMI 07:00 12:55
ALC 07:05 13:20
AGP 07:30 14:10

PM-9

LCA 14:10 00:50
LPA 14:20 23:50
DLM 14:30 23:55
MAH 14:40 20:35
GIB 15:30 22:15
ALC 15:35 21:50
AGP 15:50 22:30
NCE 15:55 21:05
FAO 16:55 23:30

Tue

AM-9

DBV 06:00 12:35
FAO 06:10 12:45
TFS 06:15 15:45
TFS 06:35 16:05
FCO 06:50 13:10
ALC 06:55 13:15
PMI 07:00 12:55
AGP 07:00 13:40
VCE 07:15 12:40

PM-8

HER 13:55 23:00
PFO 14:05 00:35
LPA 14:10 23:40
ACE 14:40 23:45
AGP 15:00 21:40
BCN 16:45 22:25
FAO 16:55 23:30
IBZ 22:55 04:45

Wed

AM-8

FAO 06:10 12:45
TFS 06:15 15:45
ACE 06:30 15:40
PMI 06:55 12:55
ALC 06:55 13:15
AGP 07:00 13:40
MAH 07:15 13:10
FCO 08:00 14:20

PM-8

PFO 14:05 00:35
LCA 14:10 00:50
FUE 14:25 23:40
DLM 14:30 23:55
GIB 15:30 22:15
ALC 15:35 21:50
PMI 16:40 22:40
AGP 16:55 23:35

Thur

AM -9

FAO 06:10 12:45
TFS 06:15 15:45
BCN 06:40 12:30
FCO 06:50 13:10
ALC 06:55 13:15
LIS 07:00 13:40
AGP 07:00 13:40
VCE 07:15 12:40
PMI 07:20 11:40

PM-9

ARN 13:40 20:00
FAO 13:55 20:30
LPA 14:20 23:50
LCA 14:25 01:05
DLM 14:30 23:55
ACE 14:40 23:45
MAD 15:00 20:30
ALC 15:35 21:50
DBV 16:50 23:25

EVE

IBZ 22:55 04:45

Fri

AM-9

FAO 06:10 12:45
FNC 06:15 14:45
VCE 06:35 12:00
BCN 06:40 12:30
FCO 06:50 13:10
LIS 07:00 13:40
AGP 07:00 13:40
ALC 07:05 13:20
MAH 07:15 13:10

PM-9

PMI 13:05 19:00
LCA 14:10 00:50
HER 14:30 23:35
DLM 14:30 23:55
TFS 15:00 00:30
MAD 15:00 20:30
ARN 15:00 21:20
GIB 15:30 22:15
NCE 15:55 21:05

EVE

AGP 20:05 02:40
IBZ 22:55 04:45
PMI 23:00 04:55

Sat

AM-8

DBV 06:00 12:35
PMI 06:15 12:20
VCE 06:35 12:00
TFS 06:35 16:05
BCN 06:40 12:30
FCO 06:50 13:10
AGP 07:00 13:40
ALC 07:05 13:20

PM-8

PFO 14:05 00:35
FUE 14:15 23:30
LPA 14:20 23:50
DLM 14:30 23:55
ACE 14:40 23:45
FAO 14:50 18:35
TFS 15:00 00:30
AGP 17:35 00:10

EVE

PMI 23:00 04:55

Sun

AM-9

DLM 06:00 15:25
ACE 06:10 15:15
FAO 06:10 12:45
TFS 06:15 15:45
LCA 06:25 17:00
VCE 06:35 12:00
AGP 07:00 13:40
ALC 07:05 13:20
PVK 07:25 15:25

PM-8

PMI 14:20 18:35
ARN 14:50 21:10
MAD 15:00 20:30
LIS 15:05 21:40
GIB 16:30 23:20
AGP 16:30 23:10
BCN 16:45 22:25
FCO 17:30 23:55

EVE

IBZ 22:55 04:45
PMI 21:30 03:20

 

[Brum X]

Thanks for the info Ray

 

[Ray Finkle]

I also should have added that Sharm is currently showing 2x weekly from Feb to April but nothing after that. I'm not sure what the situation is at the moment, I guess it's a wait and see.

 

[IanFarquharson]

Ray
So 127 departures pw
254 movements px
At say 200 seats per movement
50,800 seats pw
26 weeks = 1,320,800 seats

 

[Ray Finkle]

Not looking too bad and we should see an extra frequency or two added to the sun routes over the coming months which will fill the gaps.

If a deal was done with ARN then it makes sense that it's been fitted in, I hope that it works out for them.

 

[Brum X]

Not looking too bad and we should see an extra frequency or two added to the sun routes over the coming months which will fill the gaps.

If a deal was done with ARN then it makes sense that it's been fitted in, I hope that it works out for them.

It just feels strange that ARN approached Monarch of all airlines, I wonder if they approached SAS or Norweigan ??

Im not complaining though, it is great that BHX has direct flights again to Stockholm.

 

[jfy1999]

If Monarch perform well on ARN and Norwegian see it then hopefully they will try and get in on the act.

SAS had a good start, the route went downhill once they changed the times and aircraft.

 

[thunderchild]

Lots of chatter on various forums that Monarch are on the verge of ceasing operations - hence the United 747s. Very sad if true but at the moment everything looks to be business as usual? And if they were to go under would they really have launched all those new routes last week?

 

[User001]

Airlines will continue as business as normal until the fat lady sings. All monarch flights into the UK are being parked on remote stands tonight.

 

[Paulsstrange]

I wonder if it's a tour operator who uses monarch ?

 

[Ray Finkle]

A real shame if true, Monarch have been around as long as I can remember

The Palma flights certainly match the timings of the Monarch flights but ZB have much more than just PMI tomorrow, including BCN, FCO, LIS, FAO, FNC, TFS.......and plenty more? Hopefully as Paul suggested it's just an operator that use Monarch.

I guess we'll hear in due course but very sad for the staff if true

 

[nwoody2001]

No truth to these rumours!!!