Lost Routes

[Ray Finkle]

I don't think I'll lose any sleep about not seeing Dushanbe or Bishkek again 🙂

Looking at the routes that have gone in the last couple of years there are some key markets there that really need to be replaced sooner rather than later.

 

[Angie88]

How much notice do airlines give BHX when removing/cancelling routes? Just seems so strange to see a sizeable reduction (as if there are other forces at play such as new entrants etc)

Birmingham has a good catchment, the airport is a decent size. Why are we struggling so much to keep airlines during a time when there is 500 million pounds of investment going into the airport. I hope they pull more than one rabbit out of the hat when they do announce something, we need a bit of confidence back!

 

[andrew.clarkson]

Hi there Angie88, apart from EasyJet, Jet2 and Ryanair, these are possibly the only was when announcement of any routes may come from... Andyc

 

[Matt995]

Hi there Angie88, apart from EasyJet, Jet2 and Ryanair, these are possibly the only was when announcement of any routes may come from... Andyc

I would be surprised to see any major increase by Ryanair next year, with the Max issues, arn't they planning to cut back at Stansted for next year, so can't see any new routes from them, Wizz is the only other outside possibility at present..

 

[andrew.clarkson]

Hi there Ray, so how many routes would you say that Birmingham Airport has lost completely since the beginning of 2000.

 

[Nethercote2019]

It’s not just a BHX thing .... have a look at Cardiff DSA LBA GLA SOU etc ... the whole country is in limbo with lots of uncertainty for many, The sad loss of TC will help the other airlines & certainly think that holidays will cost more ... which won’t help pax numbers increase

 

[andrew.clarkson]

Hi there Ray, so how many destinations does Birmingham Airport fly to directly and not via any connections.. Andyc

 

[Angie88]

Hi there Angie88, apart from EasyJet, Jet2 and Ryanair, these are possibly the only was when announcement of any routes may come from... Andyc

Hi Andrew, I’d have hoped other increases for S20 may have come from the likes of easy or maybe Whizz for Europe but also maybe a reconnection to Toronto with westjet or even the hotly anticipated route east would have been a welcomed boost! But at the moment it’s just looking like reductions & I’m not confident with Flybe returning in March to serve Berlin or Milan.

I know routes are being lost across the board with Ryanair but if MAN can get an additional based aircraft this winter, I would have hoped we could have at least maintained the status quo with Ryanair!

 

[mullion]

Don`t think the Manchester thing is quite as simple as I think they are changes to the Canaries etc which have lost based aircraft, maybe wrong but it looks that way

 

[Ray Finkle]

Hi there Ray, so how many routes would you say that Birmingham Airport has lost completely since the beginning of 2000.

Probably one for Matt as my memory isn't the best and I'm useless with dates.

 

[Matt995]

Probably one for Matt as my memory isn't the best and I'm useless with dates.

haha that sounds like a challenge you have set me Ray! - I might see if I can find out, you will have to give me a few days!

 

[Matt995]

after doing a little bit of checking, these are the routes lost since 2000 that i can come up with, there might be more, but it's a rough guide:-

1 Arvidsjaur
2 Athens
3 Banjul
4 Basle
5 Beijing
6 Bergamo
7 Berne
8 Billund
9 Bishkek
10 Bologna
11 Bolzano
12 Brescia
13 Caen
14 Chicago
15 Chisinau
16 Cologne Bonn
17 Comiso
18 Deauville
19 Detroit
20 Dhaka
21 Dinard
22 Djerba
23 Dundee
24 Dusseldorf Weeze
25 Eindhoven
26 Ercan
27 Exeter
28 Fagernes
29 Florence
30 Forli
31 Frankfurt Hahn
32 Galway
33 Genoa
34 Gibraltar
35 Goa
36 Gothenburg
37 Graz
38 Helsinki
39 Karachi
40 Kaunas
41 Kiev
42 Kiruna
43 Lahore
44 Le Havre
45 Limoges
46 Lisbon
47 Ljubljana
48 Londonderry
49 Lourdes
50 Luxembourg
51 Luxor
52 Malmo
53 Marseille
54 Minsk
55 Monastir
56 Montpellier
57 Mumbai
58 Munster
59 Mytilene
60 New Orleans
61 New York JFK
62 New York Newark
63 Newcastle
64 Nice
65 Nuremburg
66 Olbia
67 Orlando Int
68 Oslo
69 Oslo Torp
70 Paderborn
71 Paris Beauvais
72 Paris Orly
73 Peshawar
74 Philadelphia
75 Phuket
76 Plovdiv
77 Poitiers
78 Puerto Plata
79 Rennes
80 Reykjavik
81 Rotterdam
82 Rzeszow
83 Santo Domingo
84 Sharm El Sheikh
85 Stockholm
86 Stockholm Skavsta
87 Taba
88 Tashkent
89 Tehran
90 Tenerife North
91 Toronto
92 Trapani
93 Trieste
94 Valencia
95 Varna
96 Volos
97 Waterford
98 Yerevan


so if Hamburg and Hanover are lost, that would make it 100 routes.

 

[TheLocalYokel]

Re #92, were these all scheduled routes or a mixture of scheduled and charter?

 

[JENNYJET]

I am trying to remember when we had Detroit as a destination!

 

[Nethercote2019]

Think it was on the AA23/24 via Chicago

 

[rollo]

Think it was on the AA23/24 via Chicago

Im sure thats correct that the Chicago service originated from Detroit.

 

[Matt995]

Re #92, were these all scheduled routes or a mixture of scheduled and charter?

think Trapani was one of the short lived scheduled Ryanair routes!

 

[Kevin Farnell]

Im sure thats correct that the Chicago service originated from Detroit.

And didn't the AA JFK originate and terminate in Miami?

Kevin

 

[Ianbutty]

after doing a little bit of checking, these are the routes lost since 2000 that i can come up with, there might be more, but it's a rough guide:-

1 Arvidsjaur
2 Athens
3 Banjul
4 Basle
5 Beijing
6 Bergamo
7 Berne
8 Billund
9 Bishkek
10 Bologna
11 Bolzano
12 Brescia
13 Caen
14 Chicago
15 Chisinau
16 Cologne Bonn
17 Comiso
18 Deauville
19 Detroit
20 Dhaka
21 Dinard
22 Djerba
23 Dundee
24 Dusseldorf Weeze
25 Eindhoven
26 Ercan
27 Exeter
28 Fagernes
29 Florence
30 Forli
31 Frankfurt Hahn
32 Galway
33 Genoa
34 Gibraltar
35 Goa
36 Gothenburg
37 Graz
38 Helsinki
39 Karachi
40 Kaunas
41 Kiev
42 Kiruna
43 Lahore
44 Le Havre
45 Limoges
46 Lisbon
47 Ljubljana
48 Londonderry
49 Lourdes
50 Luxembourg
51 Luxor
52 Malmo
53 Marseille
54 Minsk
55 Monastir
56 Montpellier
57 Mumbai
58 Munster
59 Mytilene
60 New Orleans
61 New York JFK
62 New York Newark
63 Newcastle
64 Nice
65 Nuremburg
66 Olbia
67 Orlando Int
68 Oslo
69 Oslo Torp
70 Paderborn
71 Paris Beauvais
72 Paris Orly
73 Peshawar
74 Philadelphia
75 Phuket
76 Plovdiv
77 Poitiers
78 Puerto Plata
79 Rennes
80 Reykjavik
81 Rotterdam
82 Rzeszow
83 Santo Domingo
84 Sharm El Sheikh
85 Stockholm
86 Stockholm Skavsta
87 Taba
88 Tashkent
89 Tehran
90 Tenerife North
91 Toronto
92 Trapani
93 Trieste
94 Valencia
95 Varna
96 Volos
97 Waterford
98 Yerevan


so if Hamburg and Hanover are lost, that would make it 100 routes.

At least 40 of those should be served from a World Beta city. A disgrace. Bang heads together time.

 

[KJAY 786]

All routes were busy from Birmingham International Airport so sad we need them all back - no more to say just think so sad. made me cry