Leeds Bradford - General Thread

[wawkrk]

I noticed that Aberdeen airport with the new runway extension to 6,500 ft, will be able to offer Transatlantic flights with the 787.
What are the implications for LBA and also I asuume with the the A350.

 

[wawkrk]

I was thinking the other day, why LBA,always seems to be a lower class airport than others.
About 5 years ago, I arrived on the KLM from AMS.
The door was opened and we were ready to leave. A primitive guy on the apron, shouted to the cabin manager,you have to wait.
She enquired as to why? The plank said,I am boarding the Ryanair at the moment, and I don't want your passengers boarding the Ryanair by mistake instead of going through passport control.So, the plane load of dumbos, like the band Smokie,a political celeb from BBC question time and other assorted people of low intelligence, had to wait.
I have not seen this scruffy guy for ages so I assume they gave him a lethal injection after working for many years at the airport.
Probably Aviador knows who I mean,

 

[TheLocalYokel]

I noticed that Aberdeen airport with the new runway extension to 6,500 ft, will be able to offer Transatlantic flights with the 787.
What are the implications for LBA and also I asuume with the the A350.

I can't speak directly about LBA but Bristol (also high elevation like LBA) has a runway length of 2011 metres (still slightly longer than ABZ after their short extension) against LBA's 2250 metres (I'm assuming the stats website I checked is correct over the LBA runway length, I know it is re BRS).

Boeing told the BRS management some time back that the 787 would be able to reach destinations such as the west coast of the USA and Cape Town without load penalty from the existing BRS runway. Allowing for manufacturers' natural optimism it will still open up new possibilities, although commercially I suspect mainly in the charter field from an airport such as BRS.

Thomson's MD has already said that BRS will be one of the airports to see their 787s when they come on line.

For the past two summers TOM has been able to reach Sanford non-stop from BRS with a Boeing 767-300, albeit using former First Choice machines with reduced seating compared to the old Thomson layout. However, the outbound Cancun flight has to route via MAN to take on fuel. A 787 would do it non-stop if Boeing is to be believed.

I would imagine that LBA will be in the same position as BRS regarding the improved range of the 787 off its runway compared to aircraft of the past.

 

[White Heather]

At several Consultative Meetings, the airport MD had indicated that the 787 will bring the possibility of long haul from LBA, hence their decision not to pursue the option of a runway extension even though the Government White Paper recommended one.

 

[wawkrk]

Aviador, sorry I clicked the wrong box and started a new thread.

It's no problem wawkrk.

Aviador

 

[wawkrk]

Looked like some kind of publicity shoot today.A group wearing what appeared to be LBA teeshirts but each one a different colour.Do you know anything about it Aviador? They were standing on the steps airside near the outer windows.

 

[White Heather]

Something to do with the new web site perhaps?

 

[Aviador]

I think White Heather is probably right. The new website will be the airport's new toy for a couple of week at least.

 

[Bigman]

On the 12th day of Christmas my airport got for me,

12 based Jet2’s
11 new Ryanair routes
10 Easyjet routes
9 a week to Frankfurt
8 a week Madrid
7 day service to Heathrow
6 new FlyBe routes
5 new stands
4 based Ryanairs
3 Easyjets
2 Thomsonfly
And a 767 to JFK

Let the festive fun begin!!

 

[The Pole]

Someone been at the sherry? ha ha

 

[Seasider]

No, he's been eating too many "E numbers"

 

[backtrack]

On the 12th day of Christmas my airport got for me,

12 based Jet2’s
11 new Ryanair routes
10 Easyjet routes
9 a week to Frankfurt
8 a week Madrid
7 day service to Heathrow
6 new FlyBe routes
5 new stands
4 based Ryanairs
3 Easyjets
2 Thomsonfly
And a 767 to JFK

Let the festive fun begin!!

I Like That. ]

Make sure you ask Santa nicely when he ask's if you've been a good boy and all that...

 

[Aviador]

No, he's been eating too many "E numbers"

I know Bigman well.

It's more likely going to be the 'Saltaire Blonde' or a bad batch of 'White Christmas'


[simg]http://www.saltairebrewery.co.uk/assets/images/White_Christmastiny.jpg[/simg]

 

[Aviador]

OK so LBA isn't by any sense in the big league of airports but how many small regional airports can boast Continental flights to/from:

New York,
Jeddah,
Sharm el Sheikh,
Islamabad

all within an 12 hour period. (the PIA departed after 21:00 hours)

Islamabad and Jeddah last night, New York and Sharm el Sheikh this morning.

 

[Bigman]

Can't be bad. I need cheering up at present. The beers were Master Brew and Cheeky Flanker last night, so all sorts of innuendo and double enterdres flying around.

 

[rhinoscrazy]

i know this is a random question but-
could the airport extend its runway by about 100metres - 150 metres on both ends of the runway and move the thresh holds back along with it? i know 100 - 150 metres doesnt sound like alot but put togeter its 200-300 extra what would put the runway leangth up to 2,550 or 2,350m which with my poor mathmatics would put the runway leangth above 10,000 ft what would mean we could handle further destinations with bigger planes and less reason to divert and more reason to fly to leeds bradford airport( more reasons to shop at morrisons )
and surely leeads bradford airport can afford it .

 

[TheLocalYokel]

put the runway leangth up to 2,550 or 2,350m which with my poor mathmatics would put the runway leangth above 10,000 ft what would mean we could handle further destinations with bigger planes and less reason to divert and more reason to fly to Leeds Bradford airport( more reasons to shop at morrisons

I should use a web calculator like I do.

2550 metres is apparently 8366 feet.

 

[Aviador]

The Paul the weatherman on the BBC reported that LBA had a temperature of -7 at 17:00 yesterday evening. :shok:

 

[lbaspotter]

Hi all

Just noticed a link on the official LBA facebook page to to this intresting news artical regarding LBA and its winter weather planning where Tony Hallwood has been interviewed by the looks off things by The insider Media limited website.

Source - http://www.insidermedia.com/

No snow chaos at LBIA - Hallwood

As chaos engulfs air transport in the UK, Leeds Bradford International Airport is reaping the benefit of its winter planning with any delays caused by the situations at other airports in the UK and across Europe. That’s according to Tony Hallwood, the commercial and aviation development director at LBIA, who told Insider the airport was working around the clock to ensure as smooth a service as possible for the Yorkshire business community and holidaymakers.

“The media is focusing on London which seems to have been seriously hit at Gatwick and especially Heathrow, in terms of being unable to cope with the snow and getting back to normal operations,” said Hallwood.

“I’m pleased to say that Leeds Bradford has been open continually since Heathrow has been out of action. We’ve been operating with delays, which have not been caused by snow and ice at Leeds Bradford but purely down to poor weather conditions in London, elsewhere in the UK and across in Northern Europe.”

Heathrow Airport officials have said no more than a third of all flights would operate until tomorrow (Wednesday) morning and warned passengers to expect delays and cancellations, possibly until Christmas Day.

Planning has helped LBIA beat the weather to date. Strategies regarding the de-icing of runways and the required level of staffing are put in place each year with reference to previous winters, as Hallwood explained: “We prepared ourselves well in advance in terms of shift rosters and additional staff.

“Any snow that has fallen has been cleared off runways and all in all our contingency plans have worked very well. Sadly, we are at the beck and call of other airports taking the same preparatory action.”

He added: “When you have a huge downpour of snow like Heathrow did last week, it’s just left them with nowhere to go. I suppose what we’re quite surprised about is the speed of response of getting things back up operating again.”

Highlighting that safety was the airport’s primary target, Hallwood said LBIA saw itself as “the gateway airport for Yorkshire” and was working hard to ensure business travellers and holidaymakers were kept informed. The airport’s new website, launched last week, is updated continually with the situation at the airport.

“We’re working very hard with all the airlines to make sure that our schedules get back on track and business can be conducted as quickly and as smoothly as possible,” said Hallwood.

“That’s especially with the Christmas festivities coming up. We want to allow those hard-working executives to get back home and relax with their families.”

 

[wawkrk]

I have often wondered if runway 01/19 was ever considered for a possible new runway. This could have been at least 8,600 feet long across open land without diverting any major roads or even taking part of the golf course. The approach over the city is over less densely populated areas and as far as I can see, no rising ground enough to cause any restrictions.