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Another thread, but I agree. Brum can learn a lot...but we need that football team.
Hope no offence with the quote but when it comes to aviation MAN has always been streaks ahead. Brum needa the same level of ambition. Unfortunatly we seem to attract the Primeras of the world...grrrrr.
GliderPilot
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Is BHX attracting the Primera’s of the world, or is it targeting them? That could be the question management need asking
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What's the saying? Fool me once shame on you.Fool me twice shame on me.
The worst kept secret is out - its official, pulling out blaming capacity reductions also impacting Stansted to a lesser extent. Well at least we know !
Primera Air to cease short-haul operations from Birmingham
Primera Air will cease operations from Birmingham Airport to Alicante, Tenerife, Las Palma, Reykjavik and Malaga on October 29th.
The decision was blamed by the Scandinavian carrier on a “capacity reduction”.
Flight to Palma de Mallorca and Barcelona from Birmingham will be cancelled earlier, on September 3rd.
In addition, flight frequency from London Stansted to Malaga has immediately been decreased to five flights per week.
The capacity reduction will also affect services from London Stansted to Alicante which will be cancelled as of October 1st.
All affected passengers have already been informed.
“Our priority is ensuring those affected passengers are compensated in compliance with EU261/2004, and alternative travel arrangements have been offered to them, as well as the option of a full refund if appropriate,” the company said in a statement.
“We are committed to minimising any disruption and are deeply sorry for the inconvenience this may cause.”
Primera Air to cease short-haul operations from Birmingham
Primera Air will cease operations from Birmingham Airport to Alicante, Tenerife, Las Palma, Reykjavik and Malaga on October 29th.
The decision was blamed by the Scandinavian carrier on a “capacity reduction”.
Flight to Palma de Mallorca and Barcelona from Birmingham will be cancelled earlier, on September 3rd.
In addition, flight frequency from London Stansted to Malaga has immediately been decreased to five flights per week.
The capacity reduction will also affect services from London Stansted to Alicante which will be cancelled as of October 1st.
All affected passengers have already been informed.
“Our priority is ensuring those affected passengers are compensated in compliance with EU261/2004, and alternative travel arrangements have been offered to them, as well as the option of a full refund if appropriate,” the company said in a statement.
“We are committed to minimising any disruption and are deeply sorry for the inconvenience this may cause.”
Coathanger16
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With the exception of Malaga, none of these were meant to operate until December so how can they cease to operate from October?
Also no mention of Chania...
Also from the Birmingham Mail:
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/business/airline-scrap-european-services-birmingham-14972689
Primera Air added: "The airline will need to carefully consider what is right for the business in 2019 regarding long-haul services from Birmingham and will take a decision early next year."
The Mail article is saying the Euro flights are being scrapped because of poor ticket sales. If they can't sell flights to popular European destinations isn't this almost certain they won't be back at all next year?
Thought I would never say this but good riddance. Been a disaster from which they could not recover and if they start mucking people about at Stansted, I expect the same announcement to follow there. I don't think any airport would be daft enough to even take their calls after this.
A shame and I feel for those who booked and have lost out, but....
A shame and I feel for those who booked and have lost out, but....
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full article....
Airline to scrap European services from Birmingham Airport
Budget airline Primera Air is to cease all of its European short-haul flights from Birmingham Airport later this year.
The Latvian carrier will stop running services between Birmingham and Palma de Mallorca and Barcelona from September 3.
Routes between Birmingham and Alicante, Las Palma, Malaga, Reykjavik and Tenerife will stop running from October 29.
The operator said this was due to a lack of demand for tickets despite positive signs from trading earlier in the summer.
A similar announcement has also been made today about some of its services from London Stansted.
Primera Air said in a statement: "Unfortunately, Primera Air has not seen the demand required on its short-haul winter schedule to make operating from Birmingham Airport commercially viable for the business.
"This is why the airline will unfortunately now cease its short-haul routes from the airport. Earlier in the summer, these flights showed a positive trend.
"However, after getting closer to the departure dates, the sales results didn't match the forecasted results and this meant it was not commercially viable to fly these routes.
"All affected passengers have already been informed.
"Our priority is ensuring those affected passengers are compensated.....and alternative travel arrangements have been offered to them as well as the option of a full refund if appropriate.
"We are committed to minimising any disruption and are deeply sorry for the inconvenience this may cause."
Birmingham Airport said: "We regret that, for operational reasons, Primera Air is unable to continue flying from Birmingham Airport this winter.
"This is disappointing, especially as there is so much demand for these destinations.
"We are pressing the airline to provide refunds as quickly as possible to allow passengers to rebook with other carriers from Birmingham.
"We are very sorry for those people whose plans have been disrupted."
This latest news follows the announcement in June that Primera Air was suspending services from Birmingham to Newark Airport near New York and Toronto.
The end of the Newark service, which launched in May, was because of the late arrival of long-haul A321neo aircraft from Airbus whereas the Toronto route never even began operations
Primera Air also announced last year that it would launch new flights to Boston from June 2018 but said in January the plan was being abandoned due to poor take up.
The end of its short-haul flights in October will bring a complete end to Primera Air's brief relationship with the airport although long-haul services could return.
Primera Air added: "The airline will need to carefully consider what is right for the business in 2019 regarding long-haul services from Birmingham and will take a decision early next year."
Primera Air also announced last year that it would launch new flights to Boston from June 2018 but said in January the plan was being abandoned due to poor take up.
The end of its short-haul flights in October will bring a complete end to Primera Air's brief relationship with the airport although long-haul services could return.
Primera Air added: "The airline will need to carefully consider what is right for the business in 2019 regarding long-haul services from Birmingham and will take a decision early next year."
Primera Air also announced last year that it would launch new flights to Boston from June 2018 but said in January the plan was being abandoned due to poor take up.
The end of its short-haul flights in October will bring a complete end to Primera Air's brief relationship with the airport although long-haul services could return.
Primera Air added: "The airline will need to carefully consider what is right for the business in 2019 regarding long-haul services from Birmingham and will take a decision early next year."
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/business/airline-scrap-european-services-birmingham-14972689
Airline to scrap European services from Birmingham Airport
Budget airline Primera Air is to cease all of its European short-haul flights from Birmingham Airport later this year.
The Latvian carrier will stop running services between Birmingham and Palma de Mallorca and Barcelona from September 3.
Routes between Birmingham and Alicante, Las Palma, Malaga, Reykjavik and Tenerife will stop running from October 29.
The operator said this was due to a lack of demand for tickets despite positive signs from trading earlier in the summer.
A similar announcement has also been made today about some of its services from London Stansted.
Primera Air said in a statement: "Unfortunately, Primera Air has not seen the demand required on its short-haul winter schedule to make operating from Birmingham Airport commercially viable for the business.
"This is why the airline will unfortunately now cease its short-haul routes from the airport. Earlier in the summer, these flights showed a positive trend.
"However, after getting closer to the departure dates, the sales results didn't match the forecasted results and this meant it was not commercially viable to fly these routes.
"All affected passengers have already been informed.
"Our priority is ensuring those affected passengers are compensated.....and alternative travel arrangements have been offered to them as well as the option of a full refund if appropriate.
"We are committed to minimising any disruption and are deeply sorry for the inconvenience this may cause."
Birmingham Airport said: "We regret that, for operational reasons, Primera Air is unable to continue flying from Birmingham Airport this winter.
"This is disappointing, especially as there is so much demand for these destinations.
"We are pressing the airline to provide refunds as quickly as possible to allow passengers to rebook with other carriers from Birmingham.
"We are very sorry for those people whose plans have been disrupted."
This latest news follows the announcement in June that Primera Air was suspending services from Birmingham to Newark Airport near New York and Toronto.
The end of the Newark service, which launched in May, was because of the late arrival of long-haul A321neo aircraft from Airbus whereas the Toronto route never even began operations
Primera Air also announced last year that it would launch new flights to Boston from June 2018 but said in January the plan was being abandoned due to poor take up.
The end of its short-haul flights in October will bring a complete end to Primera Air's brief relationship with the airport although long-haul services could return.
Primera Air added: "The airline will need to carefully consider what is right for the business in 2019 regarding long-haul services from Birmingham and will take a decision early next year."
Primera Air also announced last year that it would launch new flights to Boston from June 2018 but said in January the plan was being abandoned due to poor take up.
The end of its short-haul flights in October will bring a complete end to Primera Air's brief relationship with the airport although long-haul services could return.
Primera Air added: "The airline will need to carefully consider what is right for the business in 2019 regarding long-haul services from Birmingham and will take a decision early next year."
Primera Air also announced last year that it would launch new flights to Boston from June 2018 but said in January the plan was being abandoned due to poor take up.
The end of its short-haul flights in October will bring a complete end to Primera Air's brief relationship with the airport although long-haul services could return.
Primera Air added: "The airline will need to carefully consider what is right for the business in 2019 regarding long-haul services from Birmingham and will take a decision early next year."
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/business/airline-scrap-european-services-birmingham-14972689
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They seem to have gone from saying nothing or very little, to saying everything twice!!!
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Don't worry about shutting the door Primera Air, we will close it and switch off the light....
Interesting response from BHX that doesn't seem to defend them in anyway. Basically saying the demand is there so there's other reasons why this didn't work for Primera....
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Primera said it down to ticket sales but the airport said the demand was there and that it was operational. Basically putting the blame squarely at Primera. Can't see them being back after that as it seems the relationship between airport and airline isn't good.
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The demand is most definitely there, with last year's figures to back it up.
With the huge backlash that Primera has had, it's a given that travellers will be wary of them. Would anyone here spend money booking a flight with them? Right there is your lack of ticket sales and the nub of the whole icky mess. Primera created this scenario and I don't blame BHX for being unhappy with their sloppy operation. If it was my business they had been messing about, I would be immensely hacked off with how they've dealt with their ongoing issues. Rubbing paying and potential passengers up the wrong way and dragging the good name of your provider through the mud would be enough to make anyone open the door and say goodbye, don't come back anytime soon.
I'm with Richard on this one.....off you go and BHX will turn the light off when you go.
With the huge backlash that Primera has had, it's a given that travellers will be wary of them. Would anyone here spend money booking a flight with them? Right there is your lack of ticket sales and the nub of the whole icky mess. Primera created this scenario and I don't blame BHX for being unhappy with their sloppy operation. If it was my business they had been messing about, I would be immensely hacked off with how they've dealt with their ongoing issues. Rubbing paying and potential passengers up the wrong way and dragging the good name of your provider through the mud would be enough to make anyone open the door and say goodbye, don't come back anytime soon.
I'm with Richard on this one.....off you go and BHX will turn the light off when you go.
Over to you then CWL or BRS or LPL
But on a serious note and this is nothing against either airport but i really think we risk the scenario in 2019 that CWL/BRS or indeed LPL will have TATL flights and BHX ZILCH
And how embarrasing will that feel.
BTW had my cancellation email today, yipeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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We discussed this the other day in the CWL Potential Routes thread. I would not be jumping for joy if Primera did throw its hat into the Severnside ring. I'd be gabberflasted if they did anyway.Over to you then CWL or BRS or LPL
But on a serious note and this is nothing against either airport but i really think we risk the scenario in 2019 that CWL/BRS or indeed LPL will have TATL flights and BHX ZILCH
And how embarrasing will that feel.
BTW had my cancellation email today, yipeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
However by then Yokel, Primera Air will have there shiny brand new aircraft and i hardly think many people in the South West/Wales will know about all this mess. Again in typical BHX luck we chose the wrong airline at the wrong time (nothing new there) and now we have lost everything.
And probably another airport could make a success of this venture. As i say many many times Business sometimes stinks but business is business.
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At least it's now confirmed and public, hopefully this article will prevent even more people booking with them and ending up with their holidays ruined.
The article says that bookings were strong at first but then tailed off. What the hell do they expect when word quickly gets round that flights are being cancelled at short notice and customers are struggling to get a refund? Their bad publicity snowballed at a rate that I've never seen before and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to come up with a reason why!
Early 2019 seems way too late to put a long haul network on sale, especially when a reputation needs a major rebuild, so hopefully this is the last we'll see from Primera.
It's a shame that something that had such great potential ended up being such a complete and total shambles.
As for Birmingham Airport, well just by association their name has been dragged through the dirt and this region has been left high and dry. This is the first year in my memory that NY and Toronto have been totally unserved! I do have some sympathy for the airport as on paper this looked good and it's most likely not their fault that Primera handled the situation in the way that they did.
That said, I hope that lessons have been learned and we'll stop being associated with these type of companies.
I can totally understand the reasoning behind Virgin and Thomas Cook not wanting to cannibalise their existing operations north and south of here but I refuse to believe that there is not enough demand to New York and Orlando for even a basic schedule without having a detrimental effect elsewhere. It just needs the will to make it happen and for that we require a strong CEO.
So over to you BHX, will we continue to be haunted by those words 'we always seem to back the wrong airline'?
The article says that bookings were strong at first but then tailed off. What the hell do they expect when word quickly gets round that flights are being cancelled at short notice and customers are struggling to get a refund? Their bad publicity snowballed at a rate that I've never seen before and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to come up with a reason why!
Early 2019 seems way too late to put a long haul network on sale, especially when a reputation needs a major rebuild, so hopefully this is the last we'll see from Primera.
It's a shame that something that had such great potential ended up being such a complete and total shambles.
As for Birmingham Airport, well just by association their name has been dragged through the dirt and this region has been left high and dry. This is the first year in my memory that NY and Toronto have been totally unserved! I do have some sympathy for the airport as on paper this looked good and it's most likely not their fault that Primera handled the situation in the way that they did.
That said, I hope that lessons have been learned and we'll stop being associated with these type of companies.
I can totally understand the reasoning behind Virgin and Thomas Cook not wanting to cannibalise their existing operations north and south of here but I refuse to believe that there is not enough demand to New York and Orlando for even a basic schedule without having a detrimental effect elsewhere. It just needs the will to make it happen and for that we require a strong CEO.
So over to you BHX, will we continue to be haunted by those words 'we always seem to back the wrong airline'?
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They will know all right. The Bristol daily newspaper is always looking for negativity at BRS. it's been like that for years.
When Flyglobespan turned up at BRS in the summer of 2008 to fly each week from BRS to the Ryanairesque version of Toronto at Hamilton the local paper did a hatchet job par excellence on the airline well before any flights took off. The airline had been having dreadful problems around the country in the previous year or two with regular cancellations, non-availability of aircraft, delays of mammoth proportions. The local paper made sure that Bristolians knew all about this. The result was that fewer than 3,000 people used the service that summer. The following year Flyglobespan was no more.
If, and I don't think it's likely, Primera did believe the rolling hills of North Somerset might be a good place to explore the good citizens of the West Country would be put fully in the Primera history picture by their press guardians.
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Even after this article has been released flights to Reykjavik are still bookable on the Primera website. How is that even allowed?
Unsurprisingly Primera's Twitter has gone in to overdrive with news of the cancellations. One Tweet that particularly stood out was from a young lady called Danielle who's parents were due to travel BHX-EWR in two weeks and had no idea of the cancellation
@primeraair has cancelled flights between Newark and Birmingham until 2019. My parents are booked to travel that route in 2 weeks. When were you going to contact them??
Unsurprisingly Primera's Twitter has gone in to overdrive with news of the cancellations. One Tweet that particularly stood out was from a young lady called Danielle who's parents were due to travel BHX-EWR in two weeks and had no idea of the cancellation
@primeraair has cancelled flights between Newark and Birmingham until 2019. My parents are booked to travel that route in 2 weeks. When were you going to contact them??
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