American Airlines

[Eoin]

MAN-ORD canned,
http://news.aa.com/news/news-detail...European-Footprint-and-Modifies-Asia-Service/

 

[Jamman]

MAN-ORD canned,
http://news.aa.com/news/news-detail...European-Footprint-and-Modifies-Asia-Service/

Farewell AA to ORD, flew on that flight a few times back in the 00's.
I kind of wished I'd paid a bit more and gone with BMI back in the old days.

 

[BlueManc]

Last day of AA54/55. Massive loss!! I actually remember the 1st service in 1986.

In no way I can see this as progress - seen some arguments about direct west coast having an effect on transfers, etc..

 

[Yawner]

And now we have the 767 on PHL. Not permanent I know, but it shows their disregard for MAN. Still lots of whispers about an ORD replacement, with the candidates ranging from the sublime to the ridiculous.

 

[EGCC_MAN]

The demise of AAL54/55 is clearly bad news. But there is one modest silver lining. The pattern operated this year was the worst of all worlds: a short-season service cherrypicking the most lucrative dates only. An operation like this serves as a spoiler, messing up the economics of the route for another carrier which would otherwise consider a serious year-round service.

The other operator guilty of this practice is Air Canada Rouge. They should either push off, or provide a decent full season operation. Air Transat do a great job to prevail against them but it must be frustrating to see the peak season yields compromised like this whilst they do all the legwork outside the peak season. It would be far better to have Air Transat enjoy all of the peak season rewards underpinning a more ambitious frequency in the shoulder periods and the winter. But at least Rouge's programme lasts slightly longer than AAL54/55.

Yes, I realise that we enthusiasts enjoy occasional glimpses of the aircraft used by the 'spoiler' airline. But for the long-term viability of the route it is better that they withdraw and leave the serious players to get on with it.

 

[Aceshigh]

Totally Agree EGCC especially in respect of Rouge


They have had 2 or 3 seasons to bed the service etc but we are no further on.

Sorry either stick or twist.

 

[Coathanger16]

We'll take Rouge at BHX if you lot don't want them!

How do loads compare between Rouge and Air Transat? Is one preferred by passengers to any substantial degree?

 

[EGCC_MAN]

It's not that we don't want them. But we do want a serious full-season operation from them. Not a token effort which trashes the economics of the route for a more committed operator. They actually stifle the potential of the market.

I don't have the split for market share on MAN-YYZ. But Air Transat are present to some extent year-round. Rouge for just a short-season cherrypicking the Summer peak in isolation. And they're not daily then.

 

[Scottie Dog]

As we already know AA will not be serving Chicago from Manchester for the foreseeable future. Philadelphia will continue for Summer 2019 as a daily service with an A330-200.

 

[jfy1999]

Philadelphia – Manchester eff 03NOV19 787-8 replaces A330-200 (767 operates from 03OCT19 to 02NOV19)

Source: airlineroute

 

[BlueManc]

Not sure what to read into this. We all know how the ORD was removed and it started with 787 'upgrade'.....

It's 21 less seats in total, but 8 extra business.

 

[mullion]

I wonder if the A330s are on their way out to standardise on B787s fleet wise and as they don`t operate anywhere near
as many TA flights B777/787 will fit the bill

 

[Coathanger16]

Once they have all been delivered American will have almost 90 787's - it was only a matter of time before more TATL flights saw them.

I wouldn't read too much into it. Chicago is a relatively small TATL hub for American (1 all year round route, 6 seasonal) whereas Philadelphia is somewhat larger (8 all year round, 10 seasonal).

 

[David_itl]

A slight but of "fun"... AA is extending Manchester to Chicago operations to 33 unbroken years,. That is 32 years to the UK and 1 year as a domestic route.

https://www.concordmonitor.com/manchester-boston-airport-chicago-american-airlines-nh-22155781

 

[BlueManc]

Philadelphia – Manchester eff 03MAY19 767-300ER replaces A330-200 (Previously scheduled in October 2019 only)

Source: airlineroute

 

[mullion]

I`m not suprised as I am sure I read that AA are pulling A330 of TA flights and using them Trans Continental
so that as B787 are delivered they will take on TA flights with B763 slowly leaving the fleet, bit Ironic as United
have just gained 3 extra B763 from Hawaiian

 

[Scottie Dog]

According to ACL the service will operate with an B767-300 between 4th May and 5th June. No mention of the rest of the season changing.

 

[Scottie Dog]

Equipment change to B767-300 (209 seats) will now continue throughout S19. Last A330 operation will be 3rd May.

 

[Scottie Dog]

Equipment change on PHL from B767-300 (209seats) to B787-8 (234seats) from
08Jan. W18 was A330-200.

 

[Scottie Dog]

Airlineroute has today reported:

American Airlines in recent schedule update filed aircraft changes for Philadelphia – Manchester route, for the month of April and May 2020. From 07APR20 to 06MAY20, the oneWorld member schedules Airbus A330-200 aircraft on this route, replacing 767-300ER.

AA734 PHL2125 – 0910+1MAN 332 D
AA735 MAN1110 – 1355PHL 332 D