Hi there ray and all , as I have said before, if kehoe and Co want airlines to start and build a base more permanently at Birmingham , then he's going to have do alot more convincing, than what he's already done at present to get norweign airshuttle to start flights, as well as easyjet are another airline that needs alot of convincing. But as well as that, we all know that the airport has got to forget about this take or leave it attitude, otherwise airlines won't want to know, what kehoe and his team need to do, is offer alot more flexibility, that way an airline knows where both stand...andyc