Lost Routes

[JF57]

Never mind lost routes, how about those missing services?

I have always lamented the absence of WASHINGTON, ATLANTA, LAX or SFO in the USA, MOSCOW in the east, a decent CHINESE service with UK a good option for inward Chinese travel.

Nothing of note for non tourist traffic to Africa.Is BHX expanding at random or by design?

On a personal note, my apologies for my absence, my disability benefits were withdrawn, my vehicle was seized and I had yet another stroke to keep me busy but Virgin Media decided to cancel my Direct Debit then withdrew internet services.

Is life not interesting?

Good to see you back. Hope things improve for you.

 

[Brum X]

Nice to have you back on board JENNYJET 👍

 

[Ray Finkle]

On a personal note, my apologies for my absence

Great to see you back Madam JJ, you had one or two of us a little concerned.

I do hope that things are improving and you can look forward to a relaxing summer (if this rain ever ends) 🙂

 

[Ianbutty]

Hey jennyj! Welcome back. Hope things get better from now on. You deserve it.

 

[rollo]

In the past I've heard people say that they used to fly down to London.

They certainly did I was about 13 years old when my parents bought me a ticket for my birthday, early morning flight the
day spent on Queens building roof gardens evening return

The flight was on a viscount which probably remains my favorite aircraft I think it's the oversize windows they had.
Did the same again when they put vanguards on the route.

On the subject of lost routes I'm pretty sure Ostend is one as I remember my mom flying there
On British Midland who used to operate a series of flights every spring also to Beauvais using Argonauts
And DC3s

All in the mid sixties when England had a decent football team,!

 

[flymetothemoon]

Welcome back Jenny Jet,missed your posts!

 

[58terminus]

They certainly did I was about 13 years old when my parents bought me a ticket for my birthday, early morning flight the
day spent on Queens building roof gardens evening return

The flight was on a viscount which probably remains my favorite aircraft I think it's the oversize windows they had.
Did the same again when they put vanguards on the route.

Hello Rollo.I was wondering if many people used these flights.

 

[rollo]

Hello Rollo.I was wondering if many people used these flights.

From memory they were pretty full nearly all men in suits and carrying brief cases I probably had a rucksack with sarnies etc.

Rollo.

 

[58terminus]

I probably had a rucksack with sarnies etc.

The spotters uniform in them days🙂

 

[rollo]

The spotters uniform in them days🙂

Yes and a duffle coat complete with the toggles,

 

[Derwent Dale]

During the early seventies Dan Air Skyways (they had bought out Skyways and merged them into their own operation) operated Link City services with HS748 BOH/BHX/MAN/NCL and return on a couple of days a week - the northbound and southbound flights crossed at BHX (10 minute turnrounds). I was working in BOH and lived in Brum and used the flights quite often and surprisingly there were always a few others who would join the flight to BOH. I don't think we will ever see this one returning though !

 

[Jon Dempsey]

Welcome back Judge Jenny. You have been missed.

 

[wolfheze]

Can anyone remember what the cost of a flight from Birmingham to Heathrow was in the mid seventies? Am fairly sure us lads made enquires but decided it was too expensive for us.

 

[58terminus]

Can anyone remember what the cost of a flight from Birmingham to Heathrow was in the mid seventies? Am fairly sure us lads made enquires but decided it was too expensive for us.

Quite horrendous i would imagine. I remember booking a return flight to Dublin about 4 months in advance back in 1985 with Aer Lingus and it was about £65.That's getting on for £200 today. You could book at least 4 flights today for the same amount. Much as we love to hate them we owe a lot to Ryanair and Easyjet.

 

[Ray Finkle]

This is the list I have of routes no longer served since 1986 :-

Agadir ( Tunisia )
Antwerp ( Belgium )
Aruba ( Aruba )
Augsburg ( Germany )
Basle ( Switzerland )
Beijing ( China )
Berne ( Switzerland )
Billund ( Denmark )
Bishkek ( Kyrgyzstan )
Bologna ( Italy )
Bolzano ( Italy )
Brescia ( Italy )
Caen ( France )
Chicago ( USA )
Cologne Bonn ( Germany )
Cuneo ( Italy )
Dallas ( USA )
Deauville ( France )
Detroit ( USA )
Dinard ( France )
Djerba ( Tunisia )
Donegal ( Northern Ireland )
Dundee ( UK )
Dushanbe ( Tajikistan )
Dusseldorf Weeze ( Germany )
East Midlands ( UK )
Eindhoven ( Holland )
Enfidha ( Tunisia )
Ercan ( North Cyprus )
Exeter ( UK )
Fagernes ( Norway )
Forli ( Italy )
Frankfurt Hahn ( Germany )
Galway ( Rep Of Ireland )
Genoa ( Italy )
Guryev ( Kazakhstan )
Gutersloh ( Germany )
Helsinki ( Finland )
Karachi ( Pakistan )
Kaunas ( Latvia )
Kiev ( Ukraine )
Kirkwall ( UK )
Lahore ( Pakistan )
Le Havre ( France )
Liverpool ( UK )
Ljubljana ( Slovenia )
Londonderry ( Northern Ireland )
London Gatwick ( UK )
London Heathrow ( UK )
Lourdes ( France )
Luxor ( Egypt )
Malmo ( Sweden )
Manchester ( UK )
Milan Bergamo ( Italy )
Milan Linate ( Italy )
Monastir ( Tunisia )
Moscow ( Russia )
Mumbai ( India )
Munster ( Germany )
New York JFK ( USA )
Newcastle ( UK )
Olbia ( Sardinia )
Oslo ( Norway )
Oslo Torp ( Norway )
Paris Beauvais ( France )
Pershawar ( Pakistan )
Philadelphia ( USA )
Pisa ( Italy )
Plovdiv ( Bulgaria )
Poitiers ( France )
Puerto Plata ( Dominican Republic )
Rimini ( Italy )
Rotterdam ( Holland )
Santo Domingo ( Dominican Republic )
Southampton ( UK )
Stockholm Skavsta ( Denmark )
Szczecin ( Poland )
Taba ( Egypt )
Tangiers ( Morocco )
Tashkent ( Uzbekistan )
Tehran ( Iran )
Tenerife North ( Spain )
Thessaloniki ( Greece )
Toronto Hamilton ( Canada )
Trapani ( Sicily )
Trieste ( Italy )
Tunis ( Tunisia )
Venice Treviso ( Italy )
Volos ( Greece )
Waterford ( Rep Of Ireland )
Yerevan ( Armenia )

I think I make that 91 routes.... but of course Pisa & Thessaloniki are back for next year, hopefully with more to follow!

A few more to add to the list, I'm sure there are others that I have missed.

Anyone see a growing business opportunity shuttling passengers up/down the M1/6?

New York - Newark
Toronto
Goa
Phuket
Reykjavik
Stockholm
Valencia
Lisbon
Hanover
Hamburg
Athens
Chisinau
Banjul
Kalamata
Mytilene
Gibraltar
Toulouse
Florence
Vilnius
Varna
Rennes
Limoges
Orly
Nuremburg
Luxembourg
Bastia
Biarritz

 

[Brum X]

A few more to add to the list, I'm sure there are others that I have missed.

Anyone see a growing business opportunity shuttling passengers up/down the M1/6?

New York - Newark
Toronto
Goa
Phuket
Reykjavik
Stockholm
Valencia
Lisbon
Hanover
Hamburg
Athens
Chisinau
Banjul
Kalamata
Mytilene
Gibraltar
Toulouse
Florence
Vilnius
Varna
Rennes
Limoges
Orly
Nuremburg
Luxembourg

😢

 

[58terminus]

On the other hand we do have a longer runway,much of it free by any nasty rubber stains. Once you have negotiated the dingy check in area there are lovely shops in the Mall,sorry departure lounge whilst you wait for your flight to Palma Alicante or Ibiza.. The link to the Railway station is also increasingly busy with passengers taking advantage of the airports transport interchange.Or is that people being dropped and collected from outside the station to avoid the extortionate airport parking charges?
It's not all bad news.

 

[andrew.clarkson]

Hi there Ray and all, what shocking amount of routes that has been said Lost, I think I counted 115 in total. But Ray aren't any of those routes still served by other carriers at all, or is it being said that no current carriers serve any of those routes any more. Andyc

 

[Ray Finkle]

Hi there Ray and all, what shocking amount of routes that has been said Lost, I think I counted 115 in total. But Ray aren't any of those routes still served by other carriers at all, or is it being said that no current carriers serve any of those routes any more. Andyc

The list of routes posted by Matt go back to 1986 so some of them have been missing for many years and are unlikely to ever return.

The 25 routes that I posted have been (I think) lost since Matt's post on May 12th 2017 and now remain totally unserved from Birmingham.

 

[Matt995]

Before we get all depressed with the lost routes, you have to remember all UK airports will have plenty of lost routes since 1986. Even Heathrow and Manchester, it's always going to happen!!

However it does show how important it is for any airport to have airlines that have a base or hub for new routes. With the currently Flybe situation are we really only left with Jet2, TUI and Ryanair? what we would give for a new airline to set up a base/hub!!