The weather - General Thread

[JENNYJET]

It would finish 2020 just nicely a lousy year ends in disruption as festive season gets going. Perfection. Now who was it that broke the mirror?

 

[Aviador]

I know it's not for everyone but I actually enjoy a bit of snow, especially at this time of the year when it's so dull for much of the day. A bit of snow brightens the day up. I always feel pretty miserable at this time of the year at the best of times, this year tops the lot with Covid and family bereavement so a bit of snow would actually cheer me up somewhat.

 

[TheLocalYokel]

Not quite so bad as seen in the video but the 2010 or there about seemed fairly high up the snow and cold scale.

December 2010 was very severe in many places but over a relatively short period (a couple of weeks). The 1962-1963 event went on for over two months.

The monochrome picture of East Dundry Lane in the Wiki article is just a couple of miles from where I live. It's right under the BRS runway 27 approach path about five miles from the threshhold. From East Dundry Lane on a clear day it's possible to see the whole of Bristol laid out before you several hundred feet below and as far as the Brecon Beacons in South Wales to the west and Marlborough Downs in Wiltshire to the east.

Winter of 1962–1963 in the United Kingdom - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Aviador]

December 2010 was very severe in many places but over a relatively short period (a couple of weeks). The 1962-1963 event went on for over two months.

The monochrome picture of East Dundry Lane in the Wiki article is just a couple of miles from where I live. It's right under the BRS runway 27 approach path about five miles from the threshhold. From East Dundry Lane on a clear day it's possible to see the whole of Bristol laid out before you several hundred feet below and as far as the Brecon Beacons in South Wales to the west and Marlborough Downs in Wiltshire to the east.

Winter of 1962–1963 in the United Kingdom - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

WOW! Love the picture!

 

[JENNYJET]

At least it is your actual weather, something is happening that registers in the memory unlike a period of dreary nothingness. Hoping for a weather bomb or another Beast from the East to generate discussions whilst airports are in slumber!

 

[Jerry]

Some of the computer modelling the weather are suggesting a wintery spell in the UK towards the end of next week. Having just done a bit of digging I found this incredible footage coming out of Russia apparently.

And that's just their summers!😆

 

[TheLocalYokel]

At least it is your actual weather, something is happening that registers in the memory unlike a period of dreary nothingness. Hoping for a weather bomb or another Beast from the East to generate discussions whilst airports are in slumber!

The snag with a lot of snow is that it disrupts everything so much. In the UK even moderate snowfalls can play havoc as we don't seem able to cope as well as those countries that are used to it. Bus, train and aircraft services are disrupted; schools close; lots of people can't get to work (some don't try very hard); the elderly can't get about easily and there is the risk of falls with already busy hospital A & E units in winter burdened further with fall injuries.

A snow-covered landscape and cityscape looks pretty for a day or so but, if the temperature remains low and it doesn't melt and there are no further falls, the lying snow quickly begins to look dirty in the streets with dog ends and other litter lying on top of the snow covering.

I might sound like an old curmudgeon - I probably am with this subject - although if we must have it this winter any snow disruption can't make things much worse than they are already. Ideally I'd have a moderate snowfall at a weekend to give the kids some fun then summon heavy rain to wash it away on Sunday evening in order not to disrupt the working week - as long as the snowmelt and rain doesn't cause flooding.

 

[Jerry]

Snow+Britain=Chaos!!

 

[JENNYJET]

We perhaps have forgotten how to live with snow in our country, when I was a youngster I recall the problems caused by the 1963 event whereby we were literally snowed in our house, no roads were serviceable so no delivery of coal or milk and no services of any meaningful kind to render assistance so it was individual neighbourhood groups ganging together until the snows cleared.

I believe in 'prepping ', being ready for seige, war and pestilence thus having sufficient stock of essential dried foodstuffs and a reserve supply of bottled water. Recent events have eaten into such reserves but are being replenished whilst still available without rationing!

 

[TheLocalYokel]

I believe in 'prepping ', being ready for seige, war and pestilence thus having sufficient stock of essential dried foodstuffs and a reserve supply of bottled water. Recent events have eaten into such reserves but are being replenished whilst still available without rationing

You would get on very well with my wife in that regard. She is forethought and foresight personified when it comes to ensuring that we are prepared for almost any event that can reasonably be anticipated.

She's not a hoarder and is a very tidy person but she does keep a stock of candles some dating back to the three-day week in the winter of 1973/1974 when the electricity used to be turned off around the country for hours at a stretch to conserve energy. Even the telly had to shut down at 10.30 in the evening and it was an offence for shops to have illuminated windows.

How we as a nation would have managed had that winter been like some of the severe ones that came along in the 20th Century doesn't bear thinking about.

 

[Kevin Farnell]

Wow , woke up to snow this morning. Wasn't expecting that (even though I'd read Avaidor's bad weather warning). There was about 1 inch on the cars, but less on roadways and paths when I first looked out. In truth, snow here in the east is usually minimal. Unlike Bloxwich, were I grew up. Being approx 700ft above sea level, 6 to 8 inches was not unusual. Just looked out again and the snow seems to have turned to sleet, with it melting on the road and paths.

Kevin

 

[Aviador]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1351578151827218432

 

[JENNYJET]

A combination of weather types being a named storm baffles me. I see no defined depression or a cyclonic event, just an occlusion of rain bearing weather fronts combined with snow melt with resultant flooding but no weather bomb or beast that be defined as a storm so am I being pedantic?

 

[David_itl]

Torrential rain all day around Greater Manchester. Hundreds of residents evacuated. Lots of road closures due flooding. And then at 8pm

 

[superking]

Watching the breakfast news and they saying the river mersey is at record levels and still on the rise.Police have been going round and telling people to move out the houses as places will flood that has not flooded before.Its always so sad when houses get flooded as it upsets everyone that gets flooded and the water is always smelly.It seems to take for ever to dry house out and then repairs can start.

 

[JENNYJET]

Maybe it is time the nation invested in storm drains as many other countries have as this is now a regular occurrence and a threat to national resilience.

 

[Aviador]

A combination of weather types being a named storm baffles me. I see no defined depression or a cyclonic event, just an occlusion of rain bearing weather fronts combined with snow melt with resultant flooding but no weather bomb or beast that be defined as a storm so am I being pedantic?

I agree with your sentiments. Every winter weather front seems to be given a name these days like as if floods and snow never happened before.

It wont be long before every summer heatwave is given a name too. You will soon be victimised for driving or catching a bus instead of walking or cycling.

 

[JENNYJET]

Whilst not wishing to trivialize matters, it has not passed me by whereas the media has not renamed COVID 19 to a more impactful one, such as the Lucifer virus given how deadly it is.

 

[Land23R]

That snow for over 2 hours last evening in Greater Manchester and parts of Cheshire was not forecast. It was only expected over high ground of the Pennines, east Scotland and the borders and some in NE England. Whether the blizzards forecast in Scotland ever materialised I've no idea, but I suspect the Met office and other forecast organisations don't like to highlight their mistakes. As it happened, when the snow stopped, the temperature rose slightly so there was a slow thaw rather than ice in this area which was fortunate.

To be fair, the risk of flooding was forecast and parts of Northwich, Warrington and one or two villages are under water. Interestingly, it's reported that it wasn't the rivers Weaver and Mersey that overflowed the banks and flood protections, but the amount of surface water that wouldn't drain.

 

[David_itl]

this is a quarter of a mile away from me. Turn Moss Playing Field (better known as once ge the object of Gary Neville's desire for a community leisure facility and training ground for Salford City).

https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...-spotted-canoeing-flooded-manchester-19673401