The weather - General Thread

[Kevin Farnell]

I know it sounds stupid but I wanna experience this 40 degrees heat in the UK

But for how long? A few minutes would be interesting but a couple of days may be unbearable.
Some years ago, I was flying back from Australia and we had a stopover in Singapore. It was only a couple of hours, but we were allowed to leave the aeroplane but remained airside. Even so, there was a rooftop garden we could access. It was gone midnight, but I wanted to experience the Singaporean weather. I stepped out of the door and couldn't believe it. The humidity was incredible. It was like trying to inhale treacle. About 2 minutes was all I could take. I walked back into the air conditioned terminal absolutely soaked in sweat, I'm glad I experienced it though.

Kevin

 

[Jerry]

Why is that ? Is it becouse we are an island surrounded by cool waters so when its hot, it feels humid ??

May well be because the heat is a drier heat when on holiday. A few years ago when i was on a trip in the US i was more comfortable in Reno Nevada where it was well over 100 degrees fahrenhiet than when it was in the 80s in Sonora California.

 

[thunderchild]

But for how long? A few minutes would be interesting but a couple of days may be unbearable.
Some years ago, I was flying back from Australia and we had a stopover in Singapore. It was only a couple of hours, but we were allowed to leave the aeroplane but remained airside. Even so, there was a rooftop garden we could access. It was gone midnight, but I wanted to experience the Singaporean weather. I stepped out of the door and couldn't believe it. The humidity was incredible. It was like trying to inhale treacle. About 2 minutes was all I could take. I walked back into the air conditioned terminal absolutely soaked in sweat, I'm glad I experienced it though.

Kevin

Try spending a fortnight there! We also took a trip across the border into the Malaysian jungle and the humidity was ridiculous. Personally I can take the heat, I can quite happily have a good half hour in a sauna but not sure I could manage 48 hours!

 

[JENNYJET]

I have spent many happy days in Colombo where 30c at night is normal and daytime? " you don't want to know " was the usual answer. It was the humidity that flattened European visitors and simply moving around sapped energy. Unlike the time I was in Kenya, the heat was searing and dry but tolerable. It appears we are getting an Iberian heat plume next week and if is a humid event, it is likely to be somewhat challenging.

My back door and all Windows are open during the hours of darkness, My location is safe but closed with blinds down in daytime. A wet towel around the neck helps enormously. Being sensible is what will see one through the event, IF it is as forecast!

 

[Aviador]

The humidity is forecast to be fairly low which is unusual when we have high temperatures in the UK. If the humidity stays relatively low it should make the high temperatures slightly more bareable.

A quick check on BBC weather for Leeds, 5pm on Tuesday is 27% humidity 37'c feels like 41'c.

Tenerife at the same time shows 69% humidity with a temperature of 23'c feels like 28'c.

 

[Aviador]

I've just been watching Malaga 24 and they have been reporting that Spain has seen 360 deaths caused by the heatwave over the last 6 days.

 

[Kevin Farnell]

I'm not sure it's directly related to the weather, but I've just been to the local CO-OP and one side of the road is cordoned off. There is a sink hole (not a pot hole) about the size of a football with cracks in the tarmac stretching back about 5 to 6 metres. I didn't get too close to the hole but was able to see that there was nothing for at least a foot below it.

Kevin

 

[Sherburnflyer92]

We survived sunny days without the ‘experts’ in seventies so let us enjoy them now - Yorkshire Post Letters

From: Paul Morley, Long Preston, Skipton.

www.yorkshirepost.co.uk

 

[Sherburnflyer92]

I'm not sure it's directly related to the weather, but I've just been to the local CO-OP and one side of the road is cordoned off. There is a sink hole (not a pot hole) about the size of a football with cracks in the tarmac stretching back about 5 to 6 metres. I didn't get too close to the hole but was able to see that there was nothing for at least a foot below it.

Kevin

I mean we are a country that ins't the best at doing roads. Partly because they are resurfaced, but when dug up, not relayed but the same people that resurface them. Therefore cracks appear due general wear/tear and then weather such as heat/snow/ice/rain. It would help if when they dug a hole up the same people who can surface road went back and re-surfaced that section. I suspect it's happened like that due to the amount of times someone somewhere has dug the road up and it's not been re-surfaced correctly.

Add also into that over the years (since I've been driving) on some roads they've just chucked loads of little stones down and classed that as a resurface as they re-bed the road etc. Cheaper alternatives but then they have something like this crop up.

 

[Kevin Farnell]

I agree that some of the UK's roads are in a bad state of repair and there are many have pot holes. But this is not a pot hole, it is most definitely a sink hole and it was obvious that the sub-structure of the road has somehow been eroded/washed away (although we haven't had much rain recently). The sink hole lies directly in front of the entrance to the CO-OP car park and receives at least one HGV delivery per day. The village also has many HGV's pass through daily (there has long been a campaign for a by-pass). The cracks in the road surface stretch back from the sink hole for about 5 to 6 metres, but there are no cracks in any other section of the road. I sat on a low wall outside the shop for a few minutes, observing the sink hole (the road was cordoned off, but the footpath remained open). It was obvious that the road surface had collapsed due to the underlying structure being missing and not the other way round (I remember about weathering/erosion from 'O' Level Geography) and it is quite possible that the whole section of the road showing cracks could collapse. I guess it will be quite an urgent repair job for the Council.

Kevin

 

[Kevin Farnell]

Sad to read that there have been around 300 excess deaths in mainland Europe due to the heat and a teenage boy has died while swimming in Salford Quays. Please do not treat this heatwave as a joke. It is a serious threat to life and health to people of all ages. DO NOT go into bodies of water to cool off. The water takes months of hot weather for temperatures to rise significantly and jumping in to cool off can cause thermal shock, which is quite capable of stopping the heart. Sadly, we see reports of this every year even when the temperatures don't come near to what we will experience over the next couple of days. It is usually people of the younger generation that suffer from this. The thought 'I'm young, therefore I'm fit and will be OK' is nonsense in this situation (nature makes no exception for age).
Stay safe. Stay indoors and keep hydrated!

Kevin

 

[KARFA]

No, I think I will do what I want thanks. Why are some people taking upon themselves on social media to lecture everyone else?

EDIT: sorry not picking on you in particular Kevin, but I have seen a lot of stuff like that on Twitter over the last few days. I would say it's a hangover from covid but actually it was going on before tbh. Most of it is to make the messenger feel good and virtuous, look how much I care for everyone etc.

 

[Kevin Farnell]

I never, ever view Twitter (or Facebook for that matter). Yes, of course you are free to make your own decisions (I wouldn't want to live in a country where you couldn't), but the high temperatures do represent a threat and add extra work to emergency services. I've suffered heat stroke in the past (in the UK), as a young lad of about 10 years old. I never want to experience that again.
I don't want to spoil anyone's enjoyment of the summer, but they should be aware of the risks.

Kevin

 

[Sherburnflyer92]

No, I think I will do what I want thanks. Why are some people taking upon themselves on social media to lecture everyone else?

EDIT: sorry not picking on you in particular Kevin, but I have seen a lot of stuff like that on Twitter over the last few days. I would say it's a hangover from covid but actually it was going on before tbh. Most of it is to make the messenger feel good and virtuous, look how much I care for everyone etc.

Let's also have it right. The cold causes more deaths than heat will ever do. It really is simply. But none of the virtual signally twitterers and all those 'do gooders' hanging on so desperately for the government to tell them what to do, care about the far more excess cold deaths in winter than in Summer.

Personally I cannot wait for the media scaremongering/national emergency this week or into next when we get "flash floods" warning thanks to this warm weather which inevitably causes heavy rain and thunderstorms.

 

[Kevin Farnell]

Let's also have it right. The cold causes more deaths than heat will ever do.

That is perfectly true, at least in the UK. But, let's not add to those deaths.

Kevin

 

[Sherburnflyer92]

That is perfectly true, at least in the UK. But, let's not add to those deaths.

Kevin

Sadly its part of live Kevin. Unfortunately we've had 2 years where everyones tried to prevent the inevitable which is not done society, economy, and our own mental health any good. Sensible health advice only, the Armageddonness is just ridiculous over reaction.

 

[KARFA]

I doubt I am going to die because I go outdoors in the next two days. In fact I doubt the vast majority will die or suffer anything more than perhaps a little sunburn because they go outdoors. I can't speak for anyone else on the forum, but yes at the age of 42 I have worked out when I am thirsty to take a drink.

There is a very pernicious and spreading attitude which wants to treat adults as children constantly telling them what to do and what not to do. It is an erosion of the central tenant that as an adult you have self authority over your actions, independence, and responsibility. Of course how can you argue back, after all the intention is good and they are just wanting to care for you, forgetting that over caring for someone can be as destructive as under caring.

So no I won't be staying indoors, yes I will keep hydrated but I really didn't need to be told that in the same way I don't need to be told to keep breathing, and as for my safety I will let you know when I need you to worry about that thanks 🙂

 

[KARFA]

I never, ever view Twitter (or Facebook for that matter). Yes, of course you are free to make your own decisions (I wouldn't want to live in a country where you couldn't), but the high temperatures do represent a threat and add extra work to emergency services. I've suffered heat stroke in the past (in the UK), as a young lad of about 10 years old. I never want to experience that again.
I don't want to spoil anyone's enjoyment of the summer, but they should be aware of the risks.

Kevin

Ah yes, now we have it, the argument of the last two years, nothing can be done which could represent a burden to the emergency services, We are here to serve the NHS, the individual must serve the state 🙂

Yes I think everyone has noticed it is hot thanks. It isn't a "threat".

 

[Aviador]

The difference between an individual entering a lake and you deciding to go outside in the hot sun is somewhat different. If the individual entering the lake then requires someone else to go in to rescue them then yes they should be told NOT to do that but I agree with the overall message you are trying to convey. Those are my thoughts anyway.

 

[Sherburnflyer92]

Ah yes, now we have it, the argument of the last two years, nothing can be done which could represent a burden to the emergency services, We are here to serve the NHS, the individual must serve the state 🙂

Yes I think everyone has noticed it is hot thanks. It isn't a "threat".

The NHS has been put on some pedestal as something we as tax payers and U.K. citizens should worship. It needs to be recognised this is a failing government organisation that needs complete and utter reform.

Needs to also be recognised, U.K. citizens have some emotional tie to it thanks to the work they do in emergency situations. Therefore this whole drama about the heatwave will have NHS front right and centre in headlines to provoke emotional and irrational response from some citizens. Majority hopefully these next 2 days just go about their business as usual and use common sense.