Wizz Air

[LBAYORKIE]

When I did my detailed CAA stats earlier in the year it was Wizz's worst performing route from LBA

Worst performing maybe, but posters on here said several times that load factors across all Wizz destinations were extremely high.

 

[Finger66]

Except Wroclaw by the sound of it. High LF doesn't necessarily mean high yield but the profit details do suggest all is good (at least on paper). Maybe I am doing them more of a disservice than I should be

 

[White Heather]

Except Wroclaw by the sound of it. High LF doesn't necessarily mean high yield but the profit details do suggest all is good (at least on paper). Maybe I am doing them more of a disservice than I should be

We can see already that they have had to can loads of routes because of the loss of so many aircraft. The loss of the Wroclaw route may be nothing to do with how it performed but to do with the Wroclaw base and how it performs more generally across all routes. They may have pulled aircraft out of there to cover absences at other bases which are seen as higher priority. We dont know the reasoning.

What we do know is that at least we still have a route operational to Wroclaw via Ryanair, so the situation could have been worse.

 

[Finger66]

I appreciate I am not Wizz's biggest fan, both from personal experience and a customer service perspective bit I am still glad they chose to move their DSA ops to LBA. That said it is also disappointing we haven't seen more from them when the routes are believed to be performing well. If it is only engine issues causing the cut-backs then I suppose it's happy days to some extent. But without meaning to sound like a stuck record I remain unconvinced that is indeed the case

 

[White Heather]

I appreciate I am not Wizz's biggest fan, both from personal experience and a customer service perspective bit I am still glad they chose to move their DSA ops to LBA. That said it is also disappointing we haven't seen more from them when the routes are believed to be performing well. If it is only engine issues causing the cut-backs then I suppose it's happy days to some extent. But without meaning to sound like a stuck record I remain unconvinced that is indeed the case

Based on what? If you don't believe that, you must have some reason for doing so.

 

[Finger66]

I have my reasons re the cut backs yes, but as they are basically unfounded then I am not prepared to share them publically as that is not fair and could ultimately be slanderous. But it just purely my personal opinion that there is a lot more to this, but as I have again said previously I am more than happy to be proven wrong

 

[BCFC]

I have my reasons re the cut backs yes, but as they are basically unfounded then I am not prepared to share them publically as that is not fair and could ultimately be slanderous. But it just purely my personal opinion that there is a lot more to this, but as I have again said previously I am more than happy to be proven wrong

Wizz Air Hungary, a brief look…if you want to see balance/profit & loss just let me know.

 

[northsouth]

My taughts about WIzz at Lba is there are welcome and seem to be doing ok generally and as previous posts they do seems to cater for the polish /Rumania travellers mostly but noticed recently most of Ryanair fights flight to the same destination seem to be on the same day and in some cases similar timings.!

 

[lbaspotter]

Looks like Wizz Air are now axing the 3x weekly (Mon, Wed & Fri) Leeds/Bradford - Katowice service as the route has been taken off sale with the last flight operating Friday, January 12th. 2024.

So now down to 5x Wizz Air routes: Bucharest, Cluj Napoca, Gdansk, Krakow & Warsaw Chopin.

Can't helping wondering if Wizz Air did over-cook it when moving lock stock and barrel its operations from DSA to LBA, are they finally finding there feet and seeing what works and what doesn't?

 

[LBAYORKIE]

Looks like Wizz Air are now axing the 3x weekly (Mon, Wed & Fri) Leeds/Bradford - Katowice service as the route has been taken off sale with the last flight operating Friday, January 12th. 2024.

So now down to 5x Wizz Air routes: Bucharest, Cluj Napoca, Gdansk, Krakow & Warsaw Chopin,

Given we have been told several times that the Wizz flights all have good load factors and the airport have said Wizz have stated they are happy with their LBA operations I dont think any of the routes from LBA are safe.

 

[Sherburnflyer92]

I'd even say that Katowice isn't really as much of a tourist hotspot as Krakow. And they sell seats to both as both .. rather than separate. I hope we get to see Krakow increase.

 

[lbaspotter]

Better News:

Wizz Air LBA summer 2024 Schedule

Wizz Air’s Leeds/Bradford Summer 2024 schedule is now on sale which sees them operating 11 weekly flights to 5 destinations which include Bucharest, Cluj-Napoca, Gdansk, Krakow & Warsaw Chopin.

It is also worth noting that most if not all flights are scheduled to arrive during the daytime instead of either early mornings in winter or late night like last summer.

GDN = Gdansk = 2x weekly (Tue & Sat)
KRK = Krakow = 2x weekly (Mon & Fri)
WAW = Warsaw Chopin = 2x weekly (Wed & Sun)
OTP = Bucharest = 2x weekly (Mon & Fri)
CLJ = Cluj-Napoca = 3x weekly (Tue, Thu & Sat)

WMT = Wizz Air (Malta)
WZZ = Wizz Air (Hungary)

A320 = Airbus A320-200
A21N = Airbus A321-NEO

Mondays
WZZ2013 = KRK 13:25 – LBA 15:05 / WZZ2014 = LBA 15:40 – KRK 19:05 = A321N
WMT3015 = OTP 16:25 – LBA 18:05 / WMT3016 = LBA 18:40 – OTP 00:10* = A320
Tuesdays
WZZ1615 = GDN 09:20 – LBA 10:40 / WZZ1616 = LBA 11:15 – GDN 14:25 = A321N
WMT3313 = CLJ 11:45 – LBA 12:55 / WMT3314 = LBA 13:30 – CLJ 18:25 = A320
Wednesdays
WZZ1315 = WAW 16:15 – LBA 17:50 / WZZ1316 = LBA 18:25 – WAW 21:55 = A321N
Thursdays
WMT3313 = CLJ 11:35 – LBA 12:45 / WMT3314 = LBA 13:20 – CLJ 18:15 = A320
Fridays
WZZ2013 = KRK 13:25 – LBA 15:05 / WZZ2014 = LBA 15:40 – KRK 19:05 = A321N
WMT3015 = OTP 16:25 – LBA 18:05 / WMT3016 = LBA 18:40 – OTP 00:10* = A320
Saturdays
WZZ1615 = GDN 09:20 – LBA 10:40 / WZZ1616 = LBA 11:15 – GDN 14:25 = A321N
WMT3313 = CLJ 11:45 – LBA 12:55 / WMT3314 = LBA 13:30 – CLJ 18:25 = A320
Sundays
WZZ1315 = WAW 10:35 – LBA 12:10 / WZZ1316 = LBA 12:45 – WAW 16:15 = A321N

* Arrives destination airport early hours the next day.

 

[White Heather]

Given we have been told several times that the Wizz flights all have good load factors and the airport have said Wizz have stated they are happy with their LBA operations I dont think any of the routes from LBA are safe.

We have also been told, repeatedly, that due to the need to withdraw a significant number of NEO aircraft from service from January, in order to undertake the prescribed engine checks, Wizz would have to reduce services and axe a significant number of routes.

Given the proximity of Katowice and Krakow, there is some logic to operating to only one of them whilst they are short of aircraft. We have already seen a large number of routes axed by Wizz and there's nothing to suggest they are all suffering from poor loads. Nor does the axing of Katowice from LBA suggest the loads are to blame.

It seems that even though the airline predicted the need for cancellations and route losses months ago, you are still looking for more sinister reasons behind this.

 

[LBAYORKIE]

We have also been told, repeatedly, that due to the need to withdraw a significant number of NEO aircraft from service from January, in order to undertake the prescribed engine checks, Wizz would have to reduce services and axe a significant number of routes.

Given the proximity of Katowice and Krakow, there is some logic to operating to only one of them whilst they are short of aircraft. We have already seen a large number of routes axed by Wizz and there's nothing to suggest they are all suffering from poor loads. Nor does the axing of Katowice from LBA suggest the loads are to blame.

It seems that even though the airline predicted the need for cancellations and route losses months ago, you are still looking for more sinister reasons behind this.

Nothing 'sinister' about it. A reduction would make more sense than a complete axing of a route. Fingers crossed the withdrawn routes will return after next summer. Time will tell.

 

[White Heather]

Nothing 'sinister' about it. A reduction would make more sense than a complete axing of a route. Fingers crossed the withdrawn routes will return after next summer. Time will tell.

And that would equally apply to the many other routes they are stopping.

 

[JRP]

We have also been told, repeatedly, that due to the need to withdraw a significant number of NEO aircraft from service from January, in order to undertake the prescribed engine checks, Wizz would have to reduce services and axe a significant number of routes.

Given the proximity of Katowice and Krakow, there is some logic to operating to only one of them whilst they are short of aircraft. We have already seen a large number of routes axed by Wizz and there's nothing to suggest they are all suffering from poor loads. Nor does the axing of Katowice from LBA suggest the loads are to blame.

It seems that even though the airline predicted the need for cancellations and route losses months ago, you are still looking for more sinister reasons behind this.

I assume the airport will have more details on the reductions and if they have been told the routes will return in the future

 

[White Heather]

I assume the airport will have more details on the reductions and if they have been told the routes will return in the future

I'm sure they will, as although it's unlikely they will confirm one way or the other as all this stuff is viewed as Confidential.

 

[752]

Disappointing if you ask me.

 

[Finger66]

No freal comment from me. You already know my views. But just to be clear it's in no way LBA I think is the issue here. So that rules 1 of the 2 possibilities out........

 

[Aviador]

It's as if Wizz are the new bad boys on the block. They can't do anything without putting a foot wrong. It reminds me of when Ryanair first started out with a base at LBA. Folk complaining about baggage charges and one thing or another. Strangely enough they have survived the test of time and people are still flying with them in their millions today. We all have choices though. If you don't like them then don't fly with them. It's quite simple really.