Leeds Bradford: Infrastructure & Construction Updates

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Re: Infrastructure Developments

Under the plans it was the case that the ground floor area of the current departure facility was going to be used just for departure gates. As I understand it, this was planned just for phase 1 of the expansion. The second phase of the development would have seen this moved to a different location. From what I gather, no images have been made of the phase 1 stage of the departure gate area.
 
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The next meeting is on 16 July - supposedly anyway as the airport haven't even issued the minutes of the last one yet, or any agenda items. However, you can bet your bottom dollar that I (and I suspect a few others) will want to know what the **** is going on, especially if the chair of the Leeds West Planning Committee bothers to turn up.
 
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The plans pannel agenda for next Thursday has been issued and the airport application is not on the agenda.
It would seem therefore that the Consultative Committee on 16 July will be an opportunity to enquire about progress.
 
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LS16 said:
The plans pannel agenda for next Thursday has been issued and the airport application is not on the agenda.
It would seem therefore that the Consultative Committee on 16 July will be an opportunity to enquire about progress.

If its not about the airport application next thursday, what will they be covering then?
 
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...the Leeds Arena probably. :nea:
 
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Just to clarify, it is the chair of the Leeds West Planning Commitee who failed to turn up last time, but having just deferred an application against the advice of the Planning Officer, I was hardly surprised as there was every chance he might be lynched. The chair of the Consultative Committee is not a councillor or public employee, and I cannot ever remember him missing any meeting.

I agree though - Councillors just make me so mad on all sorts of issues, but especially the airport and if he does turn up, I am going to have to be on my best behaviour and not get too worked up!
 
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Further to my last, I did spot this unusal entry at the end of the agenda for next week's planning meeting


Date and Time of Next Meeting

To note the dates and times of future meetings as

a) Additional meeting to be held either Thursday 23rd or Thursday 30th July 2009 at 1.30 pm

b) Thursday 6th August 2009


.. short odds I suspect that they are calling a special meeting solely to deal with the airport application, and this will be held on either the 23rd or the 30th
 
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I think you are right LS16, as I was told today by an Airport employee that although they don't know when the airport issue will go back in front of the planning committee, they do expect it to be in July, even though it is not being heard on the 9th. Lets hope it goes through next time and the tree huggers, do gooders, NIMBY's and irate taxi drivers stay away, and equally, lets hope the councillors have had a dose of common sense since the last time they considered the application.
 
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Indeed lets hope this can be resolved once and for all at the next meeting whenever that may be. This tiresome wait mustn't be doing the airports relationship with airlines any good and also the flying public who have now waited for over two years since the take over of the airport to see the airport develop it's passenger experience.
 
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The council have written today to confirm that the airport application will be going back before the planning committee on the 23rd July. Anyone who wishes to go and speak out in favour of the airport needs to put a note in their diary - and everyone else get their fingers firmly crossed!
 
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Thanks for that LS16, that's some document! I haven't had chance to read it yet.
 
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Me neither, but we were told today by John Parkin (Airport MD) that the report of the planning officer supports the application. However, the equivalent report last time also supported the application, so that is no guarantee. You would imagine however, that unless the airport had addressed the issues raised by the planning committee in April to the planning officers satisfaction, he would not be supporting the application this time, nor, I suspect, would the airport be submitting it for consideration again.

Lets just hope that this time it goes through, although I note that once again our local newspaper (that used to support the airport but now takes every opportunity to have a go) is stirring up the anti airport lobby, claiming how much opposition there is. We were told today that in fact there has been a lot of support for the application since it was turned down last time, and John Parkin expressed his support to everyone who had taken the trouble to write in and give the airport their support. You all know who you are.

Very little new information provided at todays meeting however regarding the terminal except that the new Cafe Ritazza has been a real success and will be retained as part of the terminal development in its present location.
 
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So "if" on the 23rd July, the planning commitee decide to approve the application, how soon will it be before they actually start the work?

Cafe Ritazza is okay, but im pretty sure Greggs did very well too when that was there. Shame to loose so called "high street" companies, i think LBA could do with more outlets like that plus enhanced shopping areas...then again we need the space to house them really.
 
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Type Rated B767 said:
So "if" on the 23rd July, the planning commitee decide to approve the application, how soon will it be before they actually start the work?

Cafe Ritazza is okay, but im pretty sure Greggs did very well too when that was there. Shame to loose so called "high street" companies, i think LBA could do with more outlets like that plus enhanced shopping areas...then again we need the space to house them really.

It's difficult to say just how soon work could start. This depends on whether or not the airport company has decided to delay the work because of the recession. I have read the latest planning document in full. I noted that should the plans be approved, the application would stay valid for three years. So basically, this is the sort of time scale we might have to wait if Bridgepoint decide to delay the scheme.

I have to agree with your comments about Greggs but I have to admit that price aside, the new Cafe Ritazza does give a good impression when you walk into the terminal.
 
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I don't think we need worry about the scheme being delayed due to the recession. There has been no indication that this is likely from the airport MD - quite the contrary in fact. He is quite clear that the airport terminal needs to be upgraded now, because there is currently insufficient space for it to operate efficiently, particularly with regard to the security zone and the new equipment they need to install. Also, he has said several times that the terminal needs to be available when the recession ends, so there would be little point in postponing. We should also remember that due to the recession, contstruction companies are likely to tender to do the works at a lower cost now than they would do normally.

My bet would be the work would commence on site as soon as the summer 'rush' is over - allowing time for tendering etc, probably October/November, but their target will be completion by May/June 2010.
 
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Lets hope it is approved and begins straight away. I agree that cafe ritazza does look good as you enter the terminal, its gives it a sort of "departures airporty" look so to speak. If we had space passed security screening, that would be ideal to open some more outlets and some shopping brands.
 
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Type Rated B767 said:
Lets hope it is approved and begins straight away.

Well it's judgement day today (Thursday)

Fingers crossed (again 🙄 ) If the plans go through this time I'm told that the work will commence once the summer season is over, probably around November time.

If the plans don't go through, I have no idea what the airport will do. Hopefully they'll not be needing a plan B which would presumably be what 'bigman' was suggesting might happen?
 
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[textarea]Planners to give verdict on £28m LBA scheme

Leeds Bradford Airport’s £28 million expansion plans are to go before councillors in Leeds today.

The scheme to build a two-storey extension to the terminal building is being recommended for approval at a meeting of the Leeds West plans panel.

But that approval, which is expected to be deferred and delegated to the chief planning officer, will be dependant on a number of conditions, including a substantial financial contribution from the airport to help imp-rove transport networks.

Any agreement would be dependant on the setting up of a transport steering group which would review the scheme’s impact on transport networks and which would oversee the phased financial package of up to £1m.

Under the proposed agreement the airport would contribute up to £228,000 per year to support bus links with Leeds Bradford and Harrogate. This figure would be reviewed when LBIA reached 5,000,000 passengers per annum.

It is also being asked to pay £75,000 for bus services and highway measures before the first use of its terminal building.

It will also be asked to make a financial contribution of £425,000 for bus services and highway measures once it reaches 3,800,000 passengers per annum.

Among many other conditions will be the stipulation that a contribution of £50,000 be made to reinstate the bus service between the airport and York.

LBIA is planning a massive improvement of its facilities to cater for an increasing number of passengers.

But officials are stressing that expansion plans will be confined within its existing boundaries.

The £28m scheme, and the prospect of a massive increase in passenger numbers have drawn strong opposition from many quarters – as well as support from others.

The scheme went before planners in April but was deferred after members asked officers to hold further discussions with the airport.

At today’s meeting members will be told that the proposals have prompted an unprecedented number of letters.

Among those expressing concerns are Friends of the Earth.

They are arguing that the airport should have had a strategy in place for effective and sustainable transport solutions to the effects of the proposed growth before submitting an application.

And they are calling on planners not to approve the scheme until they are satisfied with the airport’s surface access strategy.

Aireborough Civic Society has voiced concerns about the increasing number of light aircraft and is asking for conditions to be put in place to limit their environmental impact on the area. Planners have also received more than 2,740 letters from local residents about the plans – with 438 of those in support of the scheme.

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"But that approval, which is expected to be deferred and delegated to the chief planning officer"

I thought that this was already the case. Please, not more delay. The council has totally lost the plot with this application.

As White Heather has already pointed out here before, 2,740 letters with only 438 in support of the application does sound overwhelming, but each and every 2,800,000 million passengers passing through the airport terminal each year surely represents a vote with their feet!

It's bugging me that we keep seeing various press reports comparing the terminal extension with expansion at airports like London Heathrow and London Stansted, yet work on our little terminal extension is absolutely essential.

Last of all with passengers at Manchester currently standing at around the 29million mark, there's room for well over 10million more Leeds City Region passengers should the Leeds planners fail to approve this expansion today.
 

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