Primera Air

[Positively_Brum]

I guess it's early days and there is still time but visibility could become a major issue.

They also need to appear in the internal systems for travel agents as we all know how lazy they can be in just directing people to LHR.

I remember 12 months into the BA BHX-JFK route going to a travel agents in Corporation Street and asking to book the Birmingham flight..........the agent turned round and said "Birmingham does'nt fly to New York". I spent half an hour educating her and then booked it with another travel agency who did know about it.

 

[Brum X]

I've just looked at existing Primera flights (Copenhagen to Barcelona) and they don't appear on Google Flights, Expedia or Kayak but they do on Skyscanner.

I think the best we can hope for then is that BHX to EWR/BOS show up (soon) on Skyscanner.

However if you type "Flights to Boston from Birmingham" in google search like many people will do, Primera is top of the list

 

[finchy168]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/n...w-cost-airline-youve-never-heard-of/#comments
A decent article today in the Daily Telegraph

 

[Ray Finkle]

I did notice a Tweet to Telegraph Travel

So we'll hear about the next two routes in September, not too long to wait.

West coast USA from Birmingham! I guess it would be via another US city, unless they're planning on acquiring a larger aircraft.

 

[BHX492]

It says Ryanair has 789 aircraft

 

[nwoody2001]

what a great article... nice to see the national press finally promoting the Birmingham base!

 

[jfy1999]

West coast USA from Birmingham! I guess it would be via another US city, unless they're planning on acquiring a larger aircraft.

I just hope they're looking at leisure destinations...such as Las Vegas and that-place-in-Florida-that-has-a-big-Disneyland-and-shall-not-be-named...

 

[Jerry]

I just hope they're looking at leisure destinations...such as Las Vegas and that-place-in-Florida-that-has-a-big-Disneyland-and-shall-not-be-named...

They'd need widebodies for them. Considering Air Tanker is based at BHX then they could use them.

 

[jfy1999]

They'd need widebodies for them. Considering Air Tanker is based at BHX then they could use them.

Interesting prospect! AirTanker needs to get some more aircraft though as their current fleet is being swallowed up by TCX and Jet2...

 

[Ray Finkle]

The A321LR that is coming in Q4 2018 could* make direct flights to Florida viable.

* I say could as I'm not sure if the max range is official yet or just an estimate, there are also many variables to be considered.

 

[BHX492]

I think it will be 2 a321neo and 1 a321lr will be based in the end with 2 routes that will be daily

 

[Jerry]

The A321LR that is coming in Q4 2018 could* make direct flights to Florida viable.

* I say could as I'm not sure if the max range is official yet or just an estimate, there are also many variables to be considered.

From what i've been told and read the LR version has the same range as the 757 and that can't get from the UK to Florida without a fuel stop. If they want to do that then i believe they would need a widebody.

 

[nwoody2001]

From what i've been told and read the LR version has the same range as the 757 and that can't get from the UK to Florida without a fuel stop. If they want to do that then i believe they would need a widebody.

Hmmmm I don't think that is correct but happy to be proven otherwise!

The A321Neo is designed to compete and replace the 757, both of which have a range around 4,000 miles (I believe the 757 has the slight larger range of 4,200 miles)

http://www.aircraft.airbus.com/aircraftfamilies/passengeraircraft/a320family/a321neo/

However, whilst tests are still being completed and certificates awards, it's believed the A321NeoLR will have an operational range of 4,600 miles, which comfortably includes Florida!

 

[Jerry]

However, whilst tests are still being completed and certificates awards, it's believed the A321NeoLR will have an operational range of 4,600 miles, which comfortably includes Florida!

If that is true then that could open up a lot of regional airports to Florida. Take CWL, Orlando has always been very popular and did well especially under Monarch unfortunately TCXs expansion at MAN has taken the route away. An airline with a narrow body with the range could do well even at a 1 weekly frequency. I do hope Primera do well at BHX and I hope the team at CWL are already in contact with them. 1 A321neoLR based at CWL would be very nice!

 

[Ray Finkle]

I do hope Primera do well at BHX and I hope the team at CWL are already in contact with them. 1 A321neoLR based at CWL would be very nice!

Well they also have 20 737 MAX 9's on order and have said that they are looking at further bases in the next two years so you never know

 

[Jerry]

Well they also have 20 737 MAX 9's on order and have said that they are looking at further bases in the next two years so you never know

Fingers crossed! I've also heard reports that both the neoLR and MAX9 might require a fair bit of runway to get going so if they are looking at the southwest then CWL's runway could give them an advantage over BRS.

 

[58terminus]

that-place-in-Florida-that-has-a-big-Disneyland-and-shall-not-be-named...

Mar-a-Lago?

 

[finchy168]

http://www.anna.aero/2017/07/27/primera-air-gears-join-low-cost-long-haul-transatlantic-market/
Quite an in-depth article here

 

[nwoody2001]

beat me to it... a great article...

their bets for the next 2 routes are Toronto and Washington!

 

[hammerb32]

My bet's Toronto and Baltimore