Primera Air

[flymetothemoon]

PF52 just airborne from EWR

 

[Matt995]

PF52 just airborne from EWR

so 5 3/4 hours late departing EWR, estimating BHX hoepfully around 16:30!! greart start for Primera!

anyone know the loads on the first inbound/outbound?

 

[Ray Finkle]

119 out last night.

Given all of the negative publicity surrounding an airline that most had barely even heard of, I don't think that's too bad.

 

[Creguk]

Hopefully things will get better for them and they build on the brand to make a success of some transatlantic routes that an airport like BHX needs.

 

[GliderPilot]

This is where Primera need to take their time and let the route establish itself with their brand. Pulling it a few months in because the numbers aren’t brilliant wouldn’t be a clever move.

I hope they stick it out if the loads aren’t all that great to begin with

 

[Ray Finkle]

PF051 is boarding, hopefully it will be an on time departure

 

[IanFarquharson]

109 pax on the first inbound

 

[Brum X]

PF051 is boarding, hopefully it will be an on time departure

I really hope it is Ray

 

[GliderPilot]

Its departed

 

[Ianbutty]

Great to see a trans Atlantic flight on FR24 again today. wish them the very best.

 

[Kevin Farnell]

I know that but if favourable routes are full other options have to be taken to avoid delays and if you look
at the route he took he was north of the east bound traffic but that doesn`t mean nothing else won`t be using
or crossing his planned route

Just for clarity on this, west bound and east bound flights use alternate altitudes. West bound flights use even flight levels (e.g. FL340 ((34000ft)), FL360, FL380 etc), whilst east bound use odd flight levels (e.g. FL330, FL350, FL370 etc). This applies worldwide and takes into account any east or west component. So, if a flight was travelling NNW then the west bound altitude rule would apply.
This alternate altitude use allows for aircraft travelling on opposite directions to use the same flight lanes should the weather conditions dictate that these are favourable.
As PF51 had no or little other traffic heading west, then this was probably the optimum routing with regards to 'winds aloft' and therefore timing and fuel burn.

Sorry for drifting off topic.

Kevin

 

[Ray Finkle]

Expected back from EWR 6 minutes early

 

[JF57]

Expected back from EWR 6 minutes early

Let's hope the 757 can stay reliable until it gets replaced by a new plane. Still not sure about the evening departure time from BHX. Perhaps cheaper slots in N.Y. as a result?

 

[rollo]

Expected back from EWR 6 minutes early

Don't put the mockers on it!
Fingers crossed.
Rollo

 

[Coathanger16]

Let's hope the 757 can stay reliable until it gets replaced by a new plane.

When is that meant to happen again?

 

[Creguk]

From what I can tell, Primera didn't really tell passengers about the 757. Is this correct? I do wonder if they had sent out a blanket email, explaining the delivery delay, would they have received less bad flack?

 

[Ray Finkle]

When is that meant to happen again?

The website shows July 30th as the first A321 flight.

 

[Matt995]

Im guessing the 2 built A321neo, is going to Stansted, so is the 3rd built one going to Paris CDG, and we get the 4th one at the end of July? Birmingham last on the list for Primera now?

 

[GliderPilot]

Birmingham last on the list for Primera now?

No changes there then

 

[Brum X]

However guys i think we sometimes have to put it into perspective, as we have discussed over the last 3 months BHX is and will be the weakest out of the 3 but lets not get down about it. We have Primera and thats all that counts at the minuite.