Ryanair

[tleeds]

To be honest, I would prefer a larger Ryanair route-network from LBA, than a large easyJet operation. Jet2 know that Ryanair aren't a direct threat as Ryanair are; Cheap and Cheerful and Jet2 are more-or-less the exact opposite. Jet2 is a family airline and if easyJet opened a base at LBA it would hinder too much on Jet2's operations.
Ryanair are also a lot more likely to provide new routes, of which LBA want and need, as appose to easyJet's replication of the current routes served at LBA.

 

[Sherburnflyer92]

Easyjets GVA operation is good, and healthy for now. Now we all know everyone wants more, but EZY are going to be a bit more speculative of growing. Lets remember they are not FR who can open, close routes as fast as they want. They want more organic healthy sustainable operation at Leeds rather then jumping at 2 based a/c and then closing it next year or year after as it's unsustainable. Thus giving the airline bad press! They are NOT FR who don't really give two sh**s! Many people who fly out of LBA will be Loyal to LS who've built up a good rep, and large customer base!

As for Grenoble, which people want for EZY, i personally think, that LS will be the ones to open up the route. For Winter 2013. Thats what i believe and would prefer to see! They currentley run charter for NCL, so why not a 1 or 2 weekly flight from LBA, MAN, GLA or EDI to begin with.

 

[airforced]

Easyjets GVA operation is good, and healthy for now. Now we all know everyone wants more, but EZY are going to be a bit more speculative of growing. Lets remember they are not FR who can open, close routes as fast as they want. They want more organic healthy sustainable operation at Leeds rather then jumping at 2 based a/c and then closing it next year or year after as it's unsustainable. Thus giving the airline bad press! They are NOT FR who don't really give two sh**s! Many people who fly out of LBA will be Loyal to LS who've built up a good rep, and large customer base!

I agree wholeheartedly with your thoughts nicholas1992. I lived "down south" quite handily placed for LTN for a number of years and saw EZY grow and flourish by careful addition of routes to their programme. In fact I used them as much as I use LS now. Stelios is now in the background now but keeping a close eye on his investments. EZY and Jet2 do seem to operate much in the same way and therefore, in my opinion, both will continue to have a much more loyal customer base than FR who seem not to care one fig for their customers.

 

[eastcoaster]

Noticed on another forum that Malta is to be operated again through the winter 2 x weekly along with EDI and BHX. It is not showing in their timetable as yet, and looking at their W11/12 operation from LBA it does'nt fit in well with a based aircraft without some re jigging of flights and possibility of using down route based aircraft. Hopefully this means it may stay operational for S12 too.

 

[User0001]

No times yet, but looks like it will operate Weds and Sunday. The Sunday Kaunus is not available to book anymore so that may be how they intend to cover the Sunday evening service.

The only way to fit something in on a Weds would be to drop the morning Riga service or the afternoon Barcelona.

 

[tleeds]

I don't think Ryanair are that unpredictable. The Kaunas route could just be operated by a Kaunas based aircraft, or could always be on a 'W' Leg...

 

[lbaspotter]

Ryanair have retimed and altered the Sunday Kaunas service. it will now be operated by a non-based aircraft on a Saturday evening as follows.

FR2489 = KUN 16:55 – LBA 17:40
FR2488 = LBA 18:05 – KUN 22:45

At the moment the Wednesday service to Kaunas remains as originally planned to be operated by 1 of the LBA based aircraft.

The winter Malta flights are not currently on sale yet but will be uploaded soon I hear. Both flights are said to be operated by LBA based aircraft.

 

[lbaspotter]

Good news. Ryanair's winter flights to Malta from LBA are now on sale. Flights are currently planned to be operated by a non-based aircraft on Wednesday morning and the other will be operated by an LBA based aircraft on a Sunday afternoon which replaces the recently retimed/Altered Kaunas service.

The LBA - Malta flight Timetable is as follows.

Wednesdays
RYR2449 = MLA 06:30 – LBA 09:05
RYR2448 = LBA 09:30 – MLA 14:00

Sundays
RYR2448 = LBA 15:25 – MLA 19:55
RYR2449 = MLA 20:20 – LBA 22:55

We still have 2x spare gaps in the weekly flight programme for the 2x LBA based aircraft. The first gap is on a Monday from 13:10 up until 19:35. Meanwhile and the 2nd is on a Tuesday morning and runs right up until 13:20 at the latest. My guess is that there is still some re-scheduleing to be done yet.

 

[Aviador]

Thanks for the update LBAspotter!

That's good news because we all thought the Ryanair Malta flight from Leeds Bradford airport was going to be scrapped. I always thought Malta was doing well. It had some really good loads last winter although the load factors don't paint a full picture they are a good indication as to how well a route is performing.

Fingers crossed for some flights to fill those gaps!

 

[Bigman]

So how does that leave us compared to last Winter? I am guessing we have a lot more W legs this year. I seem to remember that only Faro/Dublin were W legs last Winter but I am open for correction.

 

[lbaspotter]

So how does that leave us compared to last Winter? I am guessing we have a lot more W legs this year. I seem to remember that only Faro/Dublin were W legs last Winter but I am open for correction.

This is how ryanair's Winter 2011/12 compeares to last winter 2010/11 LBA programme

Alicante = 3x weekly (No Change)
Arrecife-Lanzarrote = 2x weekly (New for winter)
Barcelona = 3x weekly (No Change)
Carcassonne = Route Dropped (Was 2x weekly last winter)
Dublin = 13x weekly (up from 11 weekly)
Dusseldorf-Weeze = 3x weekly (No Change)
Faro = 2x weekly (No Change)
Fuerteventura = 1x weekly (Was 2x weekly last winter)
Gdansk = 2x weekly (No Change)
Kaunas = 2x weekly (New route)
Krakow = 3x weekly (No change)
Knock = Route Dropped (Was 3x weekly last winter)
Malaga = 3x weekly (No Change)
Malta-Luqa = 2x weekly (No Change)
Riga = 2x weekly (New route)
Venice-Treviso = 2x weekly (No Change)

Totals
Winter 2010/11 = 41 weekly flights (3x non based = 2x FAO & 1x NRN)
Winter 2011/12 = 43 weekly flights (4x non based = 1x KUN, 1x MLA & 2x FAO)

 

[tleeds]

Thanks for this Lbaspotter.

A moderate, but promising stabilisation of operations from LBA for this Winter. I think Ryanair have done very well at LBA, and have definitely filled that 'very low-cost' gap that was in LBA's network. If Ryanair are sensible with their operations at LBA, no pulling routes at the last minute and playing 'silly-buggers' with the airport, then I can see Ryanair being able to retain a nice, promising loyal group of passengers. They definitely seem quite pleased with their 'humble' base at LBA...!

Let’s all hope they are in it for the long run!

 

[Bigman]

Yes, thanks for that lbaspotter. Going in the right direction.

 

[tleeds]

The following message has been posted on the LBA Website:

Italian Air Traffic Control Strike - 21;00 Hours Last updated: 21:03pm September 5th 2011 (GMT+1)

Tuesday 06 September 2011

Flight Number FR2502 PISA to LEEDS BRADFORD DUE TO ARRIVE AT 0845 Hours
Flight Number FR2501 from LEEDS BRADFORD TO PISA DUE TO DEPART AT 0910 Hours
Flight Number FR2484 from LEEDS BRADFORD TO VENICE DUE TO DEPART AT 1125 Hours
Flight Number FR2485 from VENICE TO LEEDS BRADFORD DUE TO ARRIVE AT 1630 Hours


We recommend you contact your airline or tour operator and check the status of your flight before arriving at the airport.

 

[lbaspotter]

Hi

Ryanair have altered the timings of there Thursday afternoon Dublin-Leeds-Dublin rotation for the remainder of the summer 2011 schedule.

It will now operate as follows.
FR156 = DUB 15:50 LBA 16:45
FR157 = LBA 17:00 DUB 18:00

All other rotations remain the same times.

 

[wawkrk]

It was terrible out on the apron this morning at 6:15 boarding the KRK flight.
However, I was pleased to see the aircraft was even there after yesterdays dreadful wind conditions.
This resulted in all aircraft parked into wind, or the wrong way round for boarding. We had to make a huge blustery detour way out onto the apron then unfortunately, the crew were not ready for us. I think several people probably died from the cold.Even on board the wind was entering the door and front seat passengers were trying to take cover but well done Ryan, at least you didn't cancel.

 

[Sherburnflyer92]

It was terrible out on the apron this morning at 6:15 boarding the KRK flight.
However, I was pleased to see the aircraft was even there after yesterdays dreadful wind conditions.
This resulted in all aircraft parked into wind, or the wrong way round for boarding. We had to make a huge blustery detour way out onto the apron then unfortunately, the crew were not ready for us. I think several people probably died from the cold.Even on board the wind was entering the door and front seat passengers were trying to take cover but well done Ryan, at least you didn't cancel.

This is why i'll never fly with Ryanair. Every other airline & partner makes sure CC are ready. But FR. I've seen it several times where you have to STOP the pax as the CC are not ready. There should be some type of rule that states until the FR CC or any CC for that matter, declare there ready for Boarding (and plane is secure) the PAX should never ever be released from gate.

 

[pilot_737]

^^^ but then Ryanair's business model would go to pot!

 

[The Pole]

It was terrible out on the apron this morning at 6:15 boarding the KRK flight.
However, I was pleased to see the aircraft was even there after yesterdays dreadful wind conditions.
This resulted in all aircraft parked into wind, or the wrong way round for boarding. We had to make a huge blustery detour way out onto the apron then unfortunately, the crew were not ready for us. I think several people probably died from the cold.Even on board the wind was entering the door and front seat passengers were trying to take cover but well done Ryan, at least you didn't cancel.

This is why i'll never fly with Ryanair. Every other airline & partner makes sure CC are ready. But FR. I've seen it several times where you have to STOP the pax as the CC are not ready. There should be some type of rule that states until the FR CC or any CC for that matter, declare there ready for Boarding (and plane is secure) the PAX should never ever be released from gate.

This happened to us coming back from Palma with Jet2! They released us from the gate and we got half way down the air bridge and were told stop and wait as the plane was still being cleaned. It was mighty hot in the tin corrider of the air bridge!

 

[Aviador]

It's a little bit frustrating when that happens but it's not a reason 'not to fly' with a particular airline surely?

Normally the flight dispatcher will contact the crew to ask if they are ready for the passengers so there's a reliance on the crew communicating between themselves. The dispatcher will then contact the handling staff at the gate to advise them to start the process of checking the passengers through ready for boarding. It might sound like a simply process but many parts of the jigsaw have to come together at the same time for it to work smoothly.

Of course, it's a slightly different process with Ryanair boarding but it works well most of the time.