Route Development & Rumours

[White Heather]

And me please!! ? Pretty please!

 

[oldendays]

Count me in to the PMs. The more, the merrier. Provided it ISN'T about Extrajet, of course.

 

[Airplane]

Add me to the list lbaspotter please

 

[lbaspotter]

Oh what have I done as it seems everyone wants a PM!

Knew I really shouldn't have added that bit to me earlier message as there is'nt much to add......

 

[whoshotjimmi]

I stated recently in the British Airways thread that it looked very much like the timings on the flights were starting to look a lot more like a night stopping aircraft is on the cards. The morning arrival is getting progressively later and the evening departure is getting progressively earlier. It looks more and more like there will be an early morning departure, a mid morning arrival, late morning departure, late afternoon arrival, early evening departure and late evening arrival. Much the same as KLM to Amsterdam. This will then pave the way for the early afternoon rotation to disappear altogether. Unless the route was to be upgraded to 4 flights per day, of course.

Hopefully, if this all comes on board, there won't be the shambolic scenes I witnessed this evening whilst picking up the girlfriend's parents where the doors from the baggage hall to the arrivals area did got stuck, trapping a woman between the door and the gate and stopping all passengers from leaving the airport for a good 10 minutes.

The only question I have is that if Thomas Cook return with a based aircraft, will it not make some of the Monarch and Jet2 routes unfeasible and, ultimately, lead to a reduction in scheduled flights?

 

[a300boy]

Happy if it all happens !
Worried that Monarch will have issues with autoland capability here at Leeds with the A321 but as they are in the process of replacing the fleet with B737-800 Max aircraft unless they go for the short field option aircraft the Uk regulations might be create a problem for that aircraft type too.

 

[lbaspotter]

When Monarch first started the Munich and Grenoble winter flights a few years back now I seem to remember them using non based Airbus A321's and accepting CAT3 approaches onto Runway 32 without problems.

 

[Sherburnflyer92]

Hopefully, if this all comes on board, there won't be the shambolic scenes I witnessed this evening whilst picking up the girlfriend's parents where the doors from the baggage hall to the arrivals area did got stuck, trapping a woman between the door and the gate and stopping all passengers from leaving the airport for a good 10 minutes.

Sorry to take this topic off course but it's not the doors that don't work it's that the passengers actually don't work. Having worked in the terminal I have witnessed it first hand - passengers stop once the doors shut in front of them panic and stop. The doors have sensors so they pick up when someone is coming at them and they open. It's not hard, it's common sense keep walking at the doors and you'll get through. All the problems caused with these doors are caused by passengers and not the doors. They are fantastic when passengers do as they should and keep walking.

 

[cmj]

Semi-related, but the doors at the D6 (and I am sure others) bus gate in Amsterdam (the one where where the KLM LBA flights go from) are manual rotating doors. What sometimes happens is that someone will walk into it thinking it's an automatic door, and when the person in front (who is pushing) exits the door, it just stops and they either walk into it or look perplexed for a moment.

 

[whoshotjimmi]

Sorry to take this topic off course but it's not the doors that don't work it's that the passengers actually don't work. Having worked in the terminal I have witnessed it first hand - passengers stop once the doors shut in front of them panic and stop. The doors have sensors so they pick up when someone is coming at them and they open. It's not hard, it's common sense keep walking at the doors and you'll get through. All the problems caused with these doors are caused by passengers and not the doors. They are fantastic when passengers do as they should and keep walking.

Whatever the problem may have been, the thing that irked me was that it took 10 minutes to resolve the problem before people could start walking through again. It was another two minutes before someone decided to open the manual door to let people out. Not very safe, not very good PR but most importantly, it almost cost me an extra £6 in parking....

 

[White Heather]

I stated recently in the British Airways thread that it looked very much like the timings on the flights were starting to look a lot more like a night stopping aircraft is on the cards. The morning arrival is getting progressively later and the evening departure is getting progressively earlier. It looks more and more like there will be an early morning departure, a mid morning arrival, late morning departure, late afternoon arrival, early evening departure and late evening arrival. Much the same as KLM to Amsterdam. This will then pave the way for the early afternoon rotation to disappear altogether. Unless the route was to be upgraded to 4 flights per day, of course.

Hopefully, if this all comes on board, there won't be the shambolic scenes I witnessed this evening whilst picking up the girlfriend's parents where the doors from the baggage hall to the arrivals area did got stuck, trapping a woman between the door and the gate and stopping all passengers from leaving the airport for a good 10 minutes.

The only question I have is that if Thomas Cook return with a based aircraft, will it not make some of the Monarch and Jet2 routes unfeasible and, ultimately, lead to a reduction in scheduled flights?

I think you will find that the majority of the routes Thomas Cook would operate remain under-served from LBA, despite recent increases in flights. There is still seepage from Yorkshire over to MAN, down the DSA to a lesser degree and to other airports too.

 

[GolfFox]

A Monarch A321 has turned up a couple of times this year when the A320 has gone tech. and has done CAT3 onto 32.
Can't recall where it was going but it did a CAT3 when positioning inbound (empty) and also on its return late evening in fog and wet runway - although I guess with an A320 load.

 

[Tarn Spotter]

Been away on grandfather duties for a while so just catching up.
Always hoped the IAG group would use LBA too their hubs and have mentioned Dublin before as States clearence.
For me Madrid would be perfect as IAG group now setting up this airport as their european hub especially for south american routes and it should be a great route for both tourist and hub passengers.
At the moment I do Madrid via malaga and then the AVE to Madrid, getting a direct flight from LBA would be wonderful, hate it in winter having to travel the M62 to get a direct flight at the moment.
Have had to do the M62 route many times in the last month during what I hoped to be a quiet time (after 8pm and week ends) and it has been horrendous, especially with the closeures of some junctions for road works from the start of this month.
The thought I was doing this journey to get a flight would give me a heart attack, what should have been an hours journey, took from 2 to 4 hours and this is mid summer and late evening.

 

[leedslad]

How does Iberia Express work? Would it be possible to book one ticket Leeds to South America via Madrid?

 

[leedslad]

Pretty excited by all of the above rumours since usually travel long haul or European business flights... All of above seem to address this for once rather than summer beach routes to Spain like usual...

 

[Tarn Spotter]

Leedslad: We fly Iberia a number of times a year in Spain. Using the main Iberia site it links into Iberia express etc when needed for the flight plan.
The great thing is our last flight malaga to ibiza was via Air Nostrum booked on the Iberia site, even though the flight not until 6pm we could drop the bags at any Iberia desk from 4am (we actually dropped cases at 10am as we wanted to spent the day in Malaga)
When we did malaga- madrid-gran canaria, all booked through Iberia, first leg Air Nostrum, second leg Iberian Express, just dumped the cases at the Iberia desk and forwarded through to G C.
I would assume the same if flights from LBA start.

 

[Bigman]

All quiet on the Western front then. Any more rumours that we can throw into the mix??

 

[Bigman]

So, any thoughts on what Brexit will mean for us going forward? Ryanair have already indicated that there will be no more investment in the UK.

 

[Aviador]

I think we will so at least two years of stagnation for starters.

 

[cmj]

So, any thoughts on what Brexit will mean for us going forward? Ryanair have already indicated that there will be no more investment in the UK.

This is the same Ryanair who were behind 'leave', yes?