Leeds Bradford: Ryanair Flights, New Routes & Base Updates

[EX9]

Ryanair have no influence on whether the buses are used, its purely safety the majority of the time or if its easier.

Anything after stand 12 must be met by a buss, including all irish flights.

 

[White Heather]

Indeed, any inbound aircraft parked from stand 12 onwards requires buses to carry passengers to the arrivals which is next to stand 5. It is a requirement for the airport to provide buses on remote stands so not really a case of Ryanair forking out for them.

It may be a requirement that the airport provide buses for stand 12 onwards, but the issue experienced by wawkrk was his Ryanair flight was parked on stand 11 which is classified as a walking stand. Therefore, irrespective of weather, passengers have to walk to the terminal.

On that day, wawkrk and his fellow passengers had to deal with 50mph winds and driving rain, and I watched them struggling back to the terminal from the consultative committee meeting (must have been a boring bit!). The information I was given by the airport management only yesterday is that Ryanair could have had buses to transport the passengers in view of the weather, but they would have to pay for for them, and clearly they were not prepared to do so. It was also confirmed that LBA management do not involve themselves in issues such as which airlines choose to use buses and which don't. The buses are there if they want them.

Walking from stand 11 is not a problem in decent weather, but on that day it was no joke, and it would have been nice if Ryanair had forked out for a bus or two to save their passengers getting blown away and soaked at the same time.

The response from airport management also indicated that contrary to previous rumours on this forum, the walkway is being provided as publicised, not cancelled due to lack of funds.

 

[TheLocalYokel]

The information I was given by the airport management only yesterday is that Ryanair could have had buses to transport the passengers in view of the weather, but they would have to pay for for them, and clearly they were not prepared to do so.

The annoying thing is that the average punter will assume it's the airport's responsibility and blame it rather than the airline.

 

[wawkrk]

Yes the airport is blamed for not using buses in bad weather and the airport should take responsibility for this.Ryanair have a lot of flights into Krakow. All flights are bussed even one's that are a few strides from the terminal building. This must be the policy of the airport I assume. So where does the cost come into it?

 

[TheLocalYokel]

[offtopic]It's an interesting point so I've started a thread in the Aviation Industry Forum about the wider responsibilities of ground handling and airports.

I have no detailed knowledge of the workings and have asked some questions in the hope that those 'in the trade' will be kind enough to provide some answers.[/offtopic]

 

[channex 757]

Yep! According to the airport website, the new route will start on the 30th march operating twice weekly on a Friday and Sunday

 

[Bigman]

About time we got Reus...sorry Barcelona Reus. We just need Barcelona Girona back and that will be the full set.

 

[tleeds]

That should make Jet2 consider twice on whether they wanted to operate a Reus service from LBA, seeing as they now fly from MAN and NCL..

 

[Galaxy]

Are Ryanair really referring to Reus as Barcelona Reus? What a complete joke if so, as per usual. It angers me how if you buy Champagne it has to be from the Champagne region of France, Cornish Pasties have to be made in Cornwall, and Cumberland Sausages have to come from Cumberland (before anyone corrects me on this, the word 'style' has to follow Cornish / Cumberland etc if they're made elsewhere). So how do Ruinair get away with claiming airports are in cities that they are not? It MUST be in contravention of the trades description act. Take for example Weeze Airport. Nowhere whatsoever at the airport is the word 'Dusseldorf' displayed, it is solely Weeze Airport. The same with Bergamo, which is a good city in its own right that does not need to be confused with Milan. This annoys me a lot.

 

[wawkrk]

Galaxy, I absolutely agree with what you say although Bergamo is borderline.Linate is also not so close to Milan and it can take longer to reach because of the horrendous traffic jams.

 

[Galaxy]

Cheers wawkrk! Yet another agreement between us!!! ; ) slight off-topic but I suppose that Doncaster-Sheffield Airport should also be brought into question, and to a lesser extent Leeds-Bradford, although at least in both of these cases, the name of the host city of the airport is at least displayed first.

Ryanair are exemplars of bad practice when it comes to lying to their customers about where actually airports are. The train journey from Taragona to Barcelona is around 2 hours, then you have to get to Taragona station, which takes a good half an hour to 45 minutes.

I might start an online petition!

 

[Jordan-34092]

I might start an online petition!

If you do i'll sign, hate ryanair with a passion, i'll sign anything that will get some dirt over on them.

 

[White Heather]

They are not my favourite airline either, but they have a 3 aircraft base at LBA this year, loads of routes, and LBA needs them, (and Jet2) so I see no point in trying to dish dirt, as in the end, LBA will be a potential victim should they lose passengers.

 

[lbia]

Reus is a great addition, I would have thought Ryanair would have stuck to Gerona and launched Reus also rather than switch to BCN last year. Reus and Gerona were both markets they could have had to themselves and charged what they wanted. Plus geographically GRO and REU do not compete with each other but BCN does as it is bang in the middle.

Generally, if Ryanair are cheaper then people book with them. If their prices are similar to, or more than competing carriers, people will book with the competing carrier. I think this is how airlines like Jet2, easyjet and bmi baby havd not been significantly impacted by Ryanair at their respective airports as the competing airline has a better luggage allowance, better flight times and usually a loyalty scheme. That is why I would have thought they would offer GRO and REU rather than BCN and REU.

 

[Jordan-34092]

Ryanair have commenced operations to GRO from the region but all flights are from Doncaster Robin Hood.

 

[wawkrk]

Reus is a very seasonal destination. I used stay in nearby Cambrils for long periods when I worked in Spain.In winter I think there was 1 flight per day to Madrid with Air Nostrum and even that was rarely full. I don't know about Gerona.

 

[whoshotjimmi]

Sorry if I ruffle a few cages here but I think Ryanair are a fantastic airline. At the end of the day, you get what you pay for and Ryanair does everything it says it will. They and Easyjet have transformed the way we travel in this country as well as providing real and thorough competition to the establishment. All you have to do is look at what has happened to legacy airlines over the last 10-15 years or so and it is not hard to see which business model has prospered.

On the occasions I have used Ryanair, their crew have been absolutely magnificent. Their aircraft are also superb considering their low cost model. Of course, there are certain things about the airline that are steadfastly unpopular - online check in fee, use of remote airports - but Ryanair have been around a long time now and eveyone knows about this. People have the choice and, for whatever reason, they still choose to use Ryanair despite this. Personally, I dislike British Airways because I am forced to travel to London to utilise them but that does not affect how good they are once you get on board.

LBA has moved to the next level with Ryanair - pax numbers would be struggling around 2m without them - and they have set a real marker for the competition, which was starting to lose its way. In the past year or so, at times, they have made the competition look amateurish. Whichever way we look at it, they are one of the biggest airlines in the world and to have them at LBA is an honour.

 

[lbaspotter]

Ryanair's new flights to Reus (Barcelona) are now on sale via there website.

Timetable is as follows for both Friday & Sunday flights.

FR6611 LBA 17:55 REU 21:20 - FR6612 REU 21:45 LBA 23:10

 

[lbaspotter]

Well after several revisions it looks as though Ryanair have now finalised there Summer 2012 flying programme from Leeds/Bradford at long last.

1 - LBA will see 83 weekly outbound and inbound flights = Totalling 166 ryanair Boeing 737-800WL movements a week,
2 - Ryanair are increaseing the base from 2 to 3 based Boeing 737-800WL aircraft
3 - Ryanair will be operating to 27 destinations this summer
4 - Ryanair is launching 7 new routes to include Dinard, Chania-Crete, Corfu, Kos, Milan-Bergamo, Reus-Barcelona & Tenerife-South
5 - 2 New routes launched this winter to Riga and Kaunas will continue to operate this summer.
6 - Extra flights added to Malaga, Palma (Majorca), Krakow

Mondays
Based Aircraft 1
06:30-08:50 – Dublin = FR153/152
09:15-14:15 – Gdansk = FR1503/1504
15:15-20:50 – Krakow = FR2332/2333
Based Aircraft 2
06:45-11:50 – Milan (Bergamo) = FR2494/2495
12:15-16:50 – Montpellier = FR2472/2473
17:50-00:05 – Murcia = FR2322/2323
Based Aircraft 3
07:10-16:30 – Fuerteventura = FR1583/1584
17:20-23:55 – Malaga = FR2446/2447
Non Based Aircraft
08:35-09:00 – Alicante = FR9078/9079
13:50-14:15 – Dusseldorf (Weeze) = FR1502/1501
16:20-16:45 – Faro = FR2504/2503
18:55-19:20 – Dublin = FR156/157

Tuesdays
Based Aircraft 1
06:30-08:50 – Dublin = FR153/152
09:15-15:10 – Palma (Mallorca) = FR2326/2327
16:00-21:35 – Krakow = FR2332/2333
Based Aircraft 2
06:30-16:05 – Tenerife (South) = FR2492/2493
17:20-23:55 – Malaga = FR2446/2447
Based Aircraft 3
06:40-11:45 – Venice (Treviso) = FR2484/2485
12:10-15:55 – Dinard = FR2478/2479
16:45-22:45 – Ibiza = FR2486/2487
Non Based Aircraft
11:30-11:55 – Arrecife (Lanzarote) = FR2047/2048
17:45-18:10 – Pisa (Florence) = FR2502/2501
18:55-19:20 – Dublin = FR156/157

Wednesdays
Based Aircraft 1
06:30-08:50 – Dublin = FR153/152
09:15-15:10 – Palma (Mallorca) = FR2326/2327
17:20-23:55 – Malaga = FR2446/2447
Based Aircraft 2
06:50-10:45 – Limoges = FR2328/2329
11:10-17:00 – Kaunas = FR2488/2489
17:50-00:05 – Murcia = FR2322/2323
Based Aircraft 3
08:05-13:55 – Riga = FR2482/2483
14:45-23:45 – Kos = FR2474/2475
Non Based Aircraft
08:35-09:00 – Alicante = FR9078/9079
13:50-14:15 – Dusseldorf (Weeze) = FR1502/1501
14:25-14:50 – Barcelona = FR9296/9297
16:20-16:45 – Faro = FR2504/2503
18:55-19:20 – Dublin = FR156/157

Thursdays
Based Aircraft 1
06:30-08:50 – Dublin = FR153/152
09:15-15:10 – Palma (Mallorca) = FR2326/2327
16:10-23:40 – Malta (Luqa) = FR2448/2449
Based Aircraft 2
06:30-11:35 – Venice (Treviso) = FR2484/2485
12:00-16:35 – Montpellier = FR2472/2473
17:35-00:10 – Malaga = FR2446/2447
Based Aircraft 3
07:00-14:25 – Corfu = FR2496/2497
16:00-21:35 – Krakow = FR2332/2333
Non Based Aircraft
18:55-19:20 – Dublin = FR156/157

Fridays
Based Aircraft 1
06:30-08:50 – Dublin = FR153/152
09:15-15:10 – Palma (Mallorca) = FR2326/2327 (Only runs 06/07/12-31/08/12)
17:20-23:55 – Malaga = FR2446/2447
Based Aircraft 2
06:45-11:50 – Milan (Bergamo) = FR2494/2495
12:40-17:40 – Gdansk = FR1503/1504
17:55-23:10 – Reus (Barcelona) = FR6611/6612
Based Aircraft 3
07:10-16:30 – Fuerteventura = FR1583/1584
17:50-00:05 – Murcia = FR2322/2323
Non Based Aircraft
08:35-09:00 – Alicante = FR9078/9079
09:35-10:15 – Barcelona = FR9296/9297
13:50-14:15 – Dusseldorf (Weeze) = FR1502/1501
16:20-16:45 – Faro = FR2504/2503
18:55-19:20 – Dublin = FR156/157

Saturdays
Based Aircraft 1
06:30-16:05 – Tenerife (South) = FR2492/2493
16:45-22:45 – Ibiza = FR2486/2487
Based Aircraft 2
06:40-11:45 – Venice (Treviso) = FR2484/2485
12:10-15:55 – Dinard = FR2478/2479
16:55-22:50 – Palma (Mallorca) = FR2326/2327
Based Aircraft 3
07:00-13:35 – Malaga = FR2446/2447
14:25-22:20 – Chania (Crete) = FR2476/2477
Non Based Aircraft
07:40-08:05 – Dublin = FR152/153
11:30-11:55 – Arrecife (Lanzarote) = FR2047/2048
11:25-12:00 – Faro = FR2504/2503
17:55-18:20 – Pisa (Florence) = FR2502/2501
18:25-18:50 – Kaunas = FR2489/2488
18:55-19:20 – Dublin = FR156/157

Sundays
Based Aircraft 1
07:10-11:05 – Limoges = FR2328/2329
11:30-17:05 – Krakow = FR2332/2333
17:55-23:10 – Reus (Barcelona) = FR6611/6612
Based Aircraft 2
09:15-15:10 – Palma (Mallorca) = FR2326/2327
16:10-23:40 – Malta (Luqa) = FR2448/2449
Based Aircraft 3
09:55-16:30 – Malaga = FR2446/2447
17:20-23:10 – Riga = FR2482/2483
Non Based Aircraft
08:35-09:00 – Alicante = FR9078/9079
14:35-15:00 – Barcelona = FR9296/9297
15:10-15:35 – Dublin = FR152/153
16:20-16:45 – Faro = FR2504/2503
18:55-19:20 – Dublin = FR156/157

 

[airforced]

Whoshotjimmi you are right when you say that Ryanair does what it says on the tin except for their use of secondary airports a million miles away from their route map stated destinations. The use, and abuse, of these secondary fields has been one of MOL's most shrewd and inventive moves that has made a fortune for them. Subsidies from Regional government, reduced landing and handling fees etc etc to say nothing of kidding his customers that they will land somewhere they want to be at!

White Heather rightly points out that Ryan moving into Leeds has been beneficial, and it has, so we shouldn't 'have a go at them' in case they up sticks. MOL has far thicker skin than that.

In essence I'm with Galaxy in thinking that they ought to say where they are going rather than trying to kid folk. Having said that, if they did advertise properly, most comedians would lose part of their routine overnight as a new Ryanair destination joke currently appears almost weekly.