Air Traffic, ILS & Navigation Aids

[a300boy]

It is being upgraded and re certified.

 

[oldendays]

Curious about Pole Hill. I thought DVOR beacons were on the way out.

 

[a300boy]

They are ! Only a few will remain of which pole hill is one.

 

[The Pole]

Curious about Pole Hill. I thought DVOR beacons were on the way out.

They are ! Only a few will remain of which pole hill is one.

Would miss Pole Hill if it was taken out of service. Reminds me of listening to ATC clearance as a child many years ago!

 

[a300boy]

Gamston and Trent are going I believe !

 

[radar]

The new channels are the 8.33kHz equivalents of the out-going 25kHz frequencies. You might find that you can still pick them up using a 25kHz receiver on the old frequencies, but no guarantees.

VHF only, UHF not affected.

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It's progress but a slight personal nuisance for me as I don't own a single airband receiver with 8.33khz spacing ! I'm old school. Have the frequencies been published yet and will the UHF frequencies be affected ?

 

[oldendays]

Thankyou radar. Another question - when do these changes take effect please ?

 

[radar]

A week on Thursday, 29th of March.

 

[oldendays]

Much obliged radar. I don't think I have anything else to ask you. Many thanks.

 

[a300boy]

Great so I have to spend £3000 on a radio upgrade for our Cherokee ! Yippee !

 

[lbaspotter]

Great guess that means I'll also have to go invest in a new Airband Radio. Just what I didn't need right now!

Has anyone any advice on which handheld airband recivers that are on the market, are worth purchasing?

 

[oldendays]

Intek and Uniden look like good value. The likes of Icom and Yaesu are beyond my means nowadays. I'm also the proud owner of a 1991 Signal R535 which I've had since new. I hope I can still get some use out of it.

 

[lbaspotter]

I have been using a very reliable Yupiteru VT-125 up until now. Which I hear Yupiteru units are no longer in production.
It did cost me a fortune 20 odd years ago when I bought it brand new from Air Supply Shop in Yeadon.

Don't even know where to start looking now regards purchasing an new one. Amazon by any chance!?

 

[mdobuk21]

I have a uniden 125-xlt, great little scanner, does the frequency step too. You will still hear the ATC transmission without having the steps but will not be the greates quality.

 

[oldendays]

Many of the long-standing radio scanner suppliers have websites and are on eBay. Waters and Stanton is one.

 

[nwh45]

I also have the signal R535 and have no problem hearing aircraft using 8.33 frequencies just tune as near as possible.

 

[Seasider]

Shouldn't the last few posts be on the Nostalgia thread?

 

[lbaspotter]

Shouldn't the last few posts be on the Nostalgia thread?

Don't see why! as it's all revelent

 

[Aviador]

The new channels are the 8.33kHz equivalents of the out-going 25kHz frequencies. You might find that you can still pick them up using a 25kHz receiver on the old frequencies, but no guarantees.

VHF only, UHF not affected.

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Out of interest, why the need for the new channels?

 

[radar]

Out of interest, why the need for the new channels?

Up until now, each frequency has been spaced from the adjacent frequencies by 25kHz.

With newer equipment, it’s possible to divide that into three and space them by 8.33kHz, trebling the number of available frequencies. This allows the demand for new frequencies to be met, and enables a greater ability to deconflict frequencies that are interfering with each other.

As far as LBA is concerned, there is no ‘need’ for the change, but it is the law that all ground stations that come under EASA have to change to 8.33kHz channels before the end of 2018.

So it’s not just Leeds, it’s everywhere.